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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 22
Returning guest, Mike Evans, Founder and Director of Wholeness Ministries and author of Learning To Do What Jesus Did, Why Not Waste Time With God, and Before You Get Here, discusses the meaning of true repentance as well as what is involved, what is required by the person to experience and move into true deliverance from any habit, addiction, or compulsive behavior.

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Believing in Him and You!
Does failure compel you away from God, or compel you to cast yourself on His grace and His mercy? To be sure, we are all on a journey of obedience and along the way we experience God’s mighty healing hand. Sometimes our path is marked by mountain-top ecstasy of being in His presence, but sometimes it is marked by our surrender and our will to obey Him when all spiritual passion has disappeared.

There is no doubt, no question, our humanity will always bear, to some degree or another, the marks of this fallen age in which we live.

But what exactly does that mean? Could it possibly mean that…
…the habitual liar may still slip at times?
…the temptation of same-sex attraction may surface from time to time?
…the former addict or alcoholic many need on-going accountability in his or her area of temptation and weakness?
…the emotionally, physically, sexually, or mentally abused may still feel threatened in certain environments or situations?

None of the above mentioned, and I could certainly continue on and on, minimizes God’s power or His sovereignty. It simply places each one of us in a process, a journey of becoming whole in Christ Jesus.

That said, it is imperative as a Christian that we maintain the right goal which is always Christ and in turn Christ-likeness. Without question, the goal of sanctification is to be conformed and transformed into the image of Christ and not to be some close-ended definition of wholeness.

Please, please find comfort in knowing that becoming whole in Jesus is a process. And because it is a process – it doesn’t happen over night.

Growing whole takes time. A lifetime in fact. Relax and enjoy the journey.

Believing in Him and You,
Pastor Phillip Lee


Saturday August 5, 2017
For ‘Wives’ Only

It is our nature to isolate when we are struggling with the various trials in life. But we do not have to walk through them alone. Open the door to healing by sharing your experiences, strengths, and hope and by becoming willing to accept God’s grace in solving life’s problems.

For ‘Wives’ Only, facilitated by Ginny Mitchell, is women supporting, praying, loving and caring for one another by being real and not hiding their feelings. For ‘Wives’ Only offers a safe environment to talk about real issues ladies have and are sometimes too ashamed or afraid to talk about. Come and receive biblical guidance, prayer, and encouragement for your healing journey.

“You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.” (Philippians 4:13)

For ‘Wives’ Only meets on the first Saturday of each month from 9:00am to 11:00am at His Way Out Ministries Office.


Saturday August 26, 2017
Friends and Family

Craig & Karen Fulwyler

Craig & Karen Fulwyler

Friends and Family offers a relaxed, informal meeting that is available to anyone seeking to understand the complexities of homosexuality and become more effective in reaching those combating same-gender attraction.

Facilitated by Craig and Karen Fulwyler, Friends and Family assists parents, friends, co-workers, a fellow brother and sister in Christ, a neighbor, face the complexity of emotions, actions and questions that will undoubtedly surface when learning of an individual’s homosexuality. Please see the article Friends and Family Care Group for additional information.

Friends and Family meets on the fourth Saturday of each month from 9:00am to 11:00am at His Way Out Ministries Office.


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Saturday at 7:00AM
KERI Radio 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

The His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast airs each Saturday morning at 7:00AM Pacific Time on KERI Channel 1410AM in Bakersfield, California immediately following Focus on the Family. Outside of Bakersfield you can listen online to the KERI Live Stream.

Recent guests include: (Left) Pastor Brandon Holthaus, Rock Harbor Church, (Center) Pastor Pete Baker, Fairfax Assembly of God, (Right) Pastor Roger Spradlin, Valley Baptist Church

Podcasts are available on our website where you can listen or download for future listening and reference. Simply select the Audio Podcasts Category link for a listing.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 21
There is no doubt many Christians have been strongly influenced by the continuous parade of positive media representations of homosexuality. It does “seem” that people today increasingly approve of homosexuality as a valid life option for friends and family members. But is that truly the case?

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Homosexuality? Who Cares? – Download MP3 –

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I suppose I could have titled this article, “Celibacy,” but then I am fairly confident that the majority would not take the time to read the content. However, of all the challenges that we face as the Church in today’s society, sexuality, and more specifically, being single and a Christian, is undoubtedly one of the greatest.

While some Christians are married and some are single, it is abundantly clear that more are married than single. For the single person, celibacy is a good thing and should be our only choice if we want to live according to God’s Word and plan. While the world continues to encourage every type of sexual expression under the sun, I wonder, has remaining celibate become obsolete because we have become so enlightened in our understanding of human sexuality? I think not.

What accounts for the huge sexual shifts in our society? Today, without a doubt, anything goes. There is no right or wrong. Not only this, but personal morals are equated with legal rights. In the 1960’s, “Sex Makes Free,” was a familiar slogan. Sex was often viewed and hailed as a universal “fix” for loneliness and human emptiness. Today, sex is looked on more and more as a constitutionally guaranteed right – a right to fulfill one’s biological drives however one sees fit, a right to dismiss, if not discard, a spouse for greener pastures and a right to pursue any sexual orientation one desires.

My intent in writing this article is not to preach at you, to tell you right from wrong, or anything along that line (I’m sure you know all the same Bible scriptures that I do about remaining celibate as a single Christian). However, I remain greatly concerned about Christian men and Christian women that are indeed having sex and having sex frequently.

What does it mean to be Christian and single? The best definition would be to live a life devoted to God, attending church regularly, having times of fellowship with friends, and being a good friend, brother, mother, father, etc. Oh, and as a single person – not having sex.

Maybe, just maybe, with the ever-increasing societal acceptance of sex before marriage, it’s just become easy, even for Christians, to justify or rationalize having sex before marriage. At least in part, I am convinced that in many cases this is due to a lack of understanding of the dividing wall that it creates between our spirit and God’s. Frankly, in today’s society, it (sexual purity) just isn’t a top priority. Maybe you’ve noticed. “I Surrender All,” isn’t at the top of the charts today.

However, beyond the obvious advantages of celibacy is the application and adherence to Scripture for the single person. When anyone, male or female, heterosexual or homosexual, makes the conscious choice to stray beyond God’s holy boundary lines, we bring the possibility of terrible consequences upon ourselves by our rebellion and disobedience. Sexual sin causes an immediate dividing wall between our spirit and God’s. God does not create the dividing wall, our sinful behavior does. Ok, so maybe I’m preaching a bit here, but there most definitely is something about sexual sin that does a huge amount of damage to a single man or woman. Anything we do that affects one part of our being (such as our body), also affects the other parts of our being (soul and spirit). As a result, when sexual sin occurs, which is war against our own body, as well a sin against God, we bring negative consequences upon our soul and spirit as well. Heaven knows the volumes that could be written in terms of the emotional damage alone caused by sexual sin.

The Apostle Peter made this point in 1 Peter 2:11, when he pleaded: “I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul.” That’s why I believe to define human sexuality (sex) just in physical terms misses the most important aspect of human sexuality – the spiritual. Sexuality is not just something that joins our bodies; it also involves the joining of our spirits. Therefore, since our sexuality links the spiritual to the physical, no amount of ‘just physical activity’ can ever create or offer the wholeness for which every single man and woman hopes for and desires.

I don’t know. Maybe it’s because I recently turned 67 years old, and still single, that I am becoming more increasingly aware of the social stigma against premarital sex that has practically become a thing of the past. Today, and I include myself even at this stage in life, thanks to the media and the so-called sexual revolution, singles are now made to feel as if something is wrong with them if they don’t have sex before marriage. However, “it” (sexual purity) was something that was instilled in me from day one of my becoming a Christian. It just seemed to me that as a single man, that was God’s given design for me as a single man. Now, that doesn’t mean there haven’t been times of “fighting the flesh.” I am not ashamed to admit that living a chaste life as a single Christian has its fair share of struggles and challenges.

Very often today, American society in particular regularly challenges the Christian belief system. It’s not so much they’re asking if it’s true, but rather, does it work? Yes, living life according to a Bible-based belief system really does work. But in order to stand firm today as a single Christian man or woman, one must draw close to the Lord for that is where we get our strength. In the practical sense, it means participating in a Bible study group and having a solid network of accountability partners – partners with whom you get brutally frank, honest, and transparent.

While taking the road of sexual purity is not for the faint of heart, there remains a way to live out God-centered principles in a culturally-sensitive environment. Yes, God’s plans are always bigger and better than our own – especially and specifically when it comes to relationships, love, and sex for the single person. There remains great reward in living life God’s way.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries
Member of Restored Hope Network

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July 19, 2017

Everyone, Good Morning!

At the Los Angeles Airport waiting to board the first leg of my trip to Houston, TX, a quick plane change, and then on to Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago.

Can’t help but take a trip down memory lane when many years ago I worked for United Airlines. Then, I dealt primarily in round trip travel.

Now, it’s one way.

Straight up to Jesus!

Have a blessed day ya’ll!

July 20, 2017

Greetings from Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago!

I arrived late last night but up early this morning and heading over to St. Augustine Evangelical Church for a meeting with church leadership.

We will be discussing and fine-tuning details for our His Way Out Ministries – The Caribbean Office.

Our Caribbean Office will be on the church campus of St. Augustine Evangelical Church which is adjacent to the Christ-Centered Counseling Center.

Bright and early tomorrow morning, I take a quick one-hour flight over to Guyana, South America to meet with the leadership of Operation Restoration, our ministry partner of many years.

We will be discussing details for the Educational Seminar that will be held on Saturday, July 22, 2017 from 9am until 3pm at the National Library in Georgetown, capital of Guyana, South America.

The title of the Educational Seminar is “Affirming Truth Rather Than Culture” with strong attendance expected.

To God be the glory!

Pastor Phillip Lee, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

Trinidad and Tobago

St. Augustine Evangelical Church

Christ-Centered Counseling Center

St. Augustine Evangelical Church

July 22, 2017

Greetings from Guyana, South America!

Operation Restoration, our great friends and partners in ministry for the past seventeen years here in Guyana.

First thing this morning, a television program titled, Look What God Is Doing.

Host, Ms. Jennifer Flatts, will conduct an interview as to why I am here in Guyana and then we will highlight the Educational Seminar being held this morning.

Our Educational Seminar titled “Affirming Truth Rather Than Culture” begins at 9:00am and will be held city center at the National Library here in Georgetown, capital of Guyana, South America.

Seminar topics include: Understanding Homosexuality, Reaching Gay Youth, Going On As A Parent and Homosexuality and the Church.

It’s going to be a grand day!

From left: Jennifer Flatts, Donna Collier, Phillip Lee, Hazel David-Longe, Phyllis Jordan, Jewell Collier-Swan

July 22, 2017

What an exciting day of ministry here in Guyana, South America which began early this morning with being a guest on the television program Look What God Is Doing with host, Ms. Jennifer Flatts.

Ms. Flatts and I have known one another for many years having partnered together in ministry on numerous occasions through the Christian ministry, Operation Restoration, of which she is a leader.

The half-hour program flew by but we covered a considerable amount of territory including testimony, the purpose and ministry services of His Way Out Ministries, why I am in Guyana this particular trip and the importance of educating the Church to be more effective in reaching those with unwanted same-sex attraction.

Many thanks to Channel 9 and Ms Flatts for having me on the program once again. To God be the glory for what He has done and what He is doing here in Guyana, South America.

Ms. Jennifer Flatts, host of “Look What God Is Doing,” Guyana, South America and Phillip Lee

July 22, 2017

Today’s Educational Seminar, “Affirming Truth Rather Than Culture,” which was held today at the National Library here in Georgetown, Guyana, South America was quite remarkable.

The full-day leadership training brought Christians from all over Georgetown and surrounding areas. Additional seating had to be brought in three times and then it quickly became standing room only.

I note attendance because it was abundantly clear that all those in attendance were there to learn. Clearly, all participants attended seeking information and training.

Equally, all participants were very attentive and fully engaged from beginning to end for the training which I designed to be highly interactive rather than a lecture-style teaching/training.

Seminar participants had excellent questions and throughout the day highly productive discussions surfaced providing an abundance of opportunity to turn and focus upon the Lordship of Christ and the Authority of Scripture.

Covering “Reaching Gay Youth, Homosexuality and the Church, Understanding Homosexuality, and Going On As A Parent” provided the teaching framework to cover many practical points for ministry to those with unwanted same-sex attraction.

It truly was a grand event for which I give God all the praise.

Phillip Lee and Ms. Elinor Jordan

Seminar participants in Georgetown, Guyana

Seminar participants at National Library of Guyana

From left: Nirmahla Hendricks, Donna Collier, Phillip Lee, Jennifer Flatts

July 23, 2017

This morning, I fly back to Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago for an afternoon meeting with the leadership of Hospital Christian Fellowship, friends and ministry partners of His Way Out Ministries for many years.

This particular trip has been go, go, go and packed daily since my arrival. Each day the Holy Spirit has confirmed and reconfirmed “His Way Out Ministries – The Caribbean” in truly remarkable ways and I am excited to be a part of what God will do and accomplish in this part of His creation.

On Monday, I will meet once again with the leadership of St. Augustine Evangelical Bible Church to sign a lease for our new Caribbean Office, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago.

These are exciting times. To God be the glory!

July 24, 2017

Everyone, Greetings from Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago!

It is official! As of this morning, lease signed with an office dedication and official launch of His Way Out Ministries – The Caribbean, scheduled for November 1, 2017.

In America, The Caribbean, and throughout this entire world, people are in need of God’s clarity about their relationships and their sexuality.

His Way Out Ministries – The Caribbean will be, just like His Way Out Ministries – United States, dedicated to raising awareness, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ throughout the Caribbean, to minister to those who struggle with the unwanted brokenness of same-sex attraction.

The position of His Way Out Ministries – United States and The Caribbean, rests on the Authority of Scripture with all ministry services centered on the Biblical foundations of compassion, integrity, and dependence on God.

We have been and we shall remain committed to effectively and compassionately communicating God’s heart concerning sexual brokenness and wholeness, while disputing the unchangeable nature of sexual orientation.

“And this is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:11)

For King and Kingdom,

Pastor Phillip Lee
His Way Out Ministries


Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 20
Keep trying, loving, praying, and looking for ways to reach gay-identified neighbors, friends, and loved ones. In doing so, regardless how they may respond, you will be living out God’s heart. We are called to sacrificial love, to love in the same way Christ loves us.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Don’t Walk On Eggshells! – Download MP3 –

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 19
Join Pastor Phillip Lee for Season 2, Podcast 19, on the topic, “When God gives a vision of truth, His truth, it is never a question of what He will do, but of what we will do.”

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Keeping the Right Focus – Download MP3 –

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In the dictionary a vow is defined as, “a solemn promise or declaration by which a person is bound to an act, service, or condition.” In Scripture, over and over again, we see references to vows and oaths.

“Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord. But I tell you, Do not swear at all; either by heaven, for it is God’s throne, or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. Simply let your Yes be Yes, and your No, No, anything beyond this comes from the evil one.” (Matthew 5:33-37)

How often have I heard, “I have had same-gender attraction for as long as I can remember and I guess I always will.” According to John and Paula Sanford in their book Transformation of The Inner Man, “An inner vow is a decision and resolve either to do or not to do a certain activity, event, or to have or not to have a certain attitude or relationship. It is a determination set by the mind and heart into all of one’s being usually set early in life, and often forgotten.” Personally speaking, I have often found that the attitude in which I face the mountains in life always has a direct and profound bearing on just how long “the mountain” may remain in my life.

While I would never dismiss the intense temptations, feelings, emotions, and, at times, overwhelming tsunami of same-gender attraction, if I, or anyone for that matter, continues to define their identity based on their sexuality (homosexual), it implies the possibility of one’s behavior or sexual orientation can never be minimized or changed. In other words, how we label ourselves reveals what is of prime importance in our life. There is finality about labeling oneself. It implies the subject is closed and that a decision has been reached. It is entirely possible for men and women to recover from any number of conditions but they may not recover from an inner vow or labeling of oneself.

How I remember to this day, when I was just a little guy, those that would constantly encourage me to play a variety of sports that I really didn’t want to play but did because “that is what little boys did.” That sense of reality coupled with the disappointment and down right hurt and shame of generally being the last to be picked for “the team,” caused me to make a decision (a vow) that I was never going to play “those stupid games” again. Now, I realize just how my attitude and decision (which really wasn’t based in truth it was just a perception on my part), catapulted me down a path that led to years of struggling with self-worth and acceptance. The incredible irony regarding sport activity was that I was pretty dog-gone good at a number of sports. Oh, the inner traps (vows) that causes such heartache, pain, and sometimes years of disillusionment and despair. It took me a very long time to realize that I was most definitely a “guy” that just happened to have different interests, gifts, and talents that didn’t match the abilities, gifts, and talents of others. Duh? No gender confusion, just specific gifts God had granted me and placed within me to honor and glorify Him.

It is certainly true that inner vows are sometimes identified by compulsive behavior. At the very moment we became a Christian and knew we had given our heart to Jesus, the reality of a power struggle may have in many cases just begun. Frankly, losing one’s life to find it is no easy journey because our old way of doing things and the old way of seeing ourselves dies only with a great deal of pain and over time. The true battle becomes – which will survive, our will or God’s will? The resolution of that question often involves coming to terms and dealing with the inner vows of homosexuality that have been falsely embraced as truth and have placed a person under the bitter root of fear, hidden resentment, and self-judgment.

An inner vow embracement, belief, and proclamation of, “I am gay and will always be gay,” can most definitely set the shape of our entire being and character. It is entirely possible for the entire structure of a person’s personality to be built around one inner vow. Now hear this! There is always much, much more to a person that just their sexuality! However, the owning of one’s identity being based on, “I’m gay!” can and often does shape the individuals personality for life.

The inner vow of seeing oneself as “always homosexual” must be addressed and ultimately broken. If not broken, the strong possibility exists that the individual will fall to relying upon the power of their flesh to lead the Christian life, to be good, righteous, and holy. Freedom, true freedom, comes by faith as well recognizing that an inner vow just may have placed us in a position of defeat and not victory.

However, there is great news! Through the repentance of any sinful action that may have caused us to make a vow, we can exercise our authority in Christ and break each and every inner vow. Whether homosexuality or any other deeply ingrained habit or compulsive behavior, breaking the hold vows may have over us is entirely possible. Every Christian has been given the God-given right to cancel any vow made in the past or present.

How does one know if an inner vow is in some way impacting their life, possibly locking them in a battle with same-gender attraction? By asking. Connect with a prayer minister, a ministry, pastor or believer in the Authority of Christ and ask the Holy Spirit to come and search your heart. Anytime a believer in Christ invites the Holy Spirit to come…why wouldn’t He? Now, here’s a tip. If the Holy Spirit identifies, discloses an “inner vow,” know that a “root cause” of behavior (homosexuality, habitual adultery, alcoholism, etc.) has been identified and the Holy Spirit is enabling a key to freedom.

Personally, I have found that God will take me as far as I am willing to go. The path of healing from same-gender attraction comes about only through a genuine and intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. The addiction and bondage to homosexuality can be totally broken. I say can be because Jesus has given us free will. The essential first step is wanting Christ and all that He offers.

You know, the person that really experiences the most change is the person that has come to realize that he simply has no other place to go.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries
Member of Restored Hope Network

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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 18
Roles get reversed when Pastor Roger Spradlin interviews Pastor Phillip Lee in the second part of a two-part episode about saying goodbye to “gay” and surrendering his life to Christ Jesus 31 years ago.

Pastor Spradlin asked important and pointed questions such as: Is there a difference between the terms “gay” and “homosexual”? Did you choose to be gay? How instrumental was the Church in your process of transformation? Were you ever bullied? Do you think a Christian should attend a same-sex marriage ceremony? Am I correct that you personally witnessed the AIDS crisis unfold in 1980? What was it, what happened that ultimately caused you to say goodbye to “gay” and surrender to Christ? Is freedom from same-sex attraction instantaneous when surrendering to Christ or is it a process? Is the ultimate goal for the same-sex attracted person heterosexuality? Is the true identity of a Christian found in their sexuality or in Christ? And, much more.

These are the kind of conversations that need to take place throughout the Body of Christ on a regular basis to effectively and compassionately communicate God’s heart concerning sexual brokenness and wholeness in Christ Jesus.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Roger Spradlin and Phillip Lee Reverse Roles pt2 – Download MP3 –

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries is offering a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 17
Roles get reversed when Pastor Roger Spradlin interviews Pastor Phillip Lee about saying goodbye to “gay” and surrendering his life to Christ Jesus 31 years ago.

Pastor Spradlin asked important and pointed questions such as: Is there a difference between the terms “gay” and “homosexual”? Did you choose to be gay? How instrumental was the Church in your process of transformation? Were you ever bullied? Do you think a Christian should attend a same-sex marriage ceremony? Am I correct that you personally witnessed the AIDS crisis unfold in 1980? What was it, what happened that ultimately caused you to say goodbye to “gay” and surrender to Christ? Is freedom from same-sex attraction instantaneous when surrendering to Christ or is it a process? Is the ultimate goal for the same-sex attracted person heterosexuality? Is the true identity of a Christian found in their sexuality or in Christ? And, much more.

These are the kind of conversations that need to take place throughout the Body of Christ on a regular basis to effectively and compassionately communicate God’s heart concerning sexual brokenness and wholeness in Christ Jesus.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Roger Spradlin and Phillip Lee Reverse Roles pt1 – Download MP3 –

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

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