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The documentary Such Were Some of You takes you on a journey that begins with a contrast between the opinions of people on the street and experts in theology and psychology. Then we hear from over two dozen former homosexuals, telling their stories of, how their homosexual confusion developed during childhood and adolescence, what the gay lifestyle was really like, how Jesus Christ brought them out of darkness, and what He has done since to bring healing to those broken areas that laid the foundation for homosexual confusion.

Such Were Some of You was inspired by the passage in 1st Corinthians 6:11 that declares that in Jesus’ day there was a population who had been so transformed by their relationship with Him that they were no longer “same-sex attracted” or at the very least, actively homosexual. They had found such a measure of healing from the brokenness and strongholds associated with what we now call homosexuality that they no longer considered themselves homosexual, nor did they act in that way.

Such Were Some of You features interviews with a “cloud of present-day witnesses” who testify to the same life-transforming power of Jesus Christ. They describe the development of their same-sex attractions, what the gay lifestyle was like, what their conversion process was like, and the various ways that Jesus has brought healing to their broken places.

Such Were Some of You lays out the facts about healing homosexual confusion and rejoices in the reality that Jesus Christ can heal anyone from anything while providing grace for the journey.

As of January 2022, the entire documentary appears to be available on YouTube or you can purchase a DVD from Mastering Life online store.

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In a workshop for parents with children involved in homosexuality, I was asked, “How do I pray for my same-sex attracted son/daughter?”

Since the roots of same-sex attraction are complex, it would be a mistake to suppose that a one-method prayer approach would be universally successful. First and foremost, if we want to get results in prayer, we must be convinced of one basic fact: God wants to answer our prayers. In other words, expect wonderful things to happen.

Luke 18:1 says, “Men ought always to pray and not to faint.”

It is not the beauty or the eloquence of our prayer that gets God’s ear, He responds to faith. Praying in faith is merely having confidence in God’s willingness to use His power to answer your prayer. Faith causes your prayers to bring results.

For most same-sex attracted men and women, the sexual aspect is surface in comparison to the complex roots of same-sex orientation. Therefore, ordinarily, expect that changes will occur in his or her life gradually and over time. That said; do not rule out relatively instant changes.

Today, “Does the individual with same-sex attraction want to be restored?” is an important, if not paramount question. Be prepared for the life that he or she has known, the friends they have known, and the prospect of possibly losing so much to surface. Certainly, while we encourage change we should not pressure or push people into making decisions. The very first step is to help the person to know Jesus; help them to know God’s love. Allow Jesus to work from the inside out, step by step.

If the gay-identified individual does not sense a need yet for change or is possibly ambivalent about it, we need to love him or her and accept them where they are. This does not mean we accept the homosexual lifestyle, but there is a progression in time and God respects the freedom of the person’s free will and conscience.

I did not know until after about five or six years of freedom from homosexuality and well into my new life in Christ, how and for how long my mother had been praying for me. One day, my mother and I were having a frank discussion about homosexuality when all of a sudden she began to sob with a steady flow of tears streaming down her face. When I asked “Mom, what’s wrong?” she replied, “You don’t know the many, many times I prayed: ‘Devil, I don’t care what he’s been doing or even for how long he’s been doing it, in the Name of Jesus you can’t have him anymore!’” Watch out for the prayers of Mama.

As we all know, when we have sinned, we need to repent and ask God’s forgiveness. Like a heterosexual who has been sexually active for years, a sexually active homosexual will find it challenging to enter into the process of change, and he or she may lapse from time to time, but the basic will to change must be there.

Unfortunately, some men and women struggling with same-sex attraction become rigid at the very mention of healing, deliverance, or restoration because the terms imply there is something wrong with them. Many have encountered so much shaming that they just naturally react sometimes even to the best of intentions, or as they see it, yet another opportunity to put them down. I guarantee you any judgmental, righteous attitude on the part of anyone even offering to pray will instantly be sensed.

It is not unusual for some to criticize most actions that fall outside the scope of our own desires and understanding. As a result, a heterosexual man or woman never having an issue with same-sex attraction might have a tendency to feel uncomfortable with someone with a homosexual orientation, especially if they fear the homosexual might develop a sexual attraction if they became too friendly. The ironic twist, if not a general rule, is that I challenge our praying successfully with people unless we have a real love for them. Therefore, anyone spending time with or praying with the same-sex attracted individual needs to feel comfortable working with them. Unless I truly feel, “There but for the grace of God go I,” our truly being of help is in serious question.

Maybe you’ve noticed? While God does answer our prayers, He rarely answers them when and how we want. We want to see the man or woman set free from same-sex attraction now! But God’s timing is perfect and His methods are perfect. Therefore, wait on Him to work in the life of your son, daughter, co-worker, neighbor, brother, or sister in Christ. During the waiting time, strengthen your faith and trust in the Lord. He hears and He is there to help you.

Remember to see Christ as your hope, knowing “That all things work together for good to them that love God, to them that are called according to His purpose.” (Romans 8:28) As a believer, you can achieve the same results that Jesus did during His earthly ministry. Jesus said, “He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father.” (John 14:12) Yes, today, greater works can be accomplished – if we cease not in our prayers.

  • Intercede with God for the destruction of the stronghold of same-sex attraction to be eradicated.
  • Present the person to God as one for whom Christ has died.
  • Pray for God to place a wall of protection around the person.

Remember, “The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.” (2 Corinthians 10:4)

“Father, Your Word is true and I believe it. Therefore, in the Name of Jesus, I believe in my heart and say with my mouth that the Word of God prevails over my loved one. Your Word says that You will pour out Your Spirit upon my offspring and Your blessing upon my descendants. I believe and say that my loved ones are wise and that they take heed to and are the fruit of godly instruction and correction. So, I commit them into Your keeping, in Jesus’ Name.”

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Standing upon the threshold of a New Year, I would never presume to be so prophetic as to fully determine where His Way Out Ministries is going from here but I am confident and promise it won’t be boring.

So, let’s jump right into this New Year!

Personally and professionally – the issue of homosexuality is extremely important to me. Having once been a member of the gay community, I am very familiar with the subculture. I have felt what homosexuals feel – rejection, a consuming fire to be loved for who you are, anger, and hurt. I am equally familiar with how friends and family feel when someone close to them announces, “I’m gay!” I am aware of how the Church often seems like the last place to go for help. And, I remain painfully aware of just how families, Christian families, in particular, suffer through excruciating pain – as my family did.

Therefore, it is my hope that my responses to frequently posed questions will both challenge and inform. Many of the questions are questions people often want to ask but are very reluctant to voice.

Question: Is molestation the main cause of someone struggling with same-sex attraction?
Answer: Same-sex attraction is caused by a combination of possible factors such as temperament and personality, family dynamics, peer pressure, experimentation with the same-sex, and exposure to pornography – to name a few. Incest, molestation and sexual violation are all too common factors in contributing to same-sex attraction. In the lives of both men and women, same-sex attraction is multi-causal and is usually formed by a combination of factors.

Question: How do I share the Gospel with my gay friend?
Answer: First and foremost, see your friend – not just the problem. Sharing the Gospel with a gay-identified man or woman is no different from anyone else. Avoid making homosexuality your primary focus. Initially, Romans 1 has rarely been very successful in introducing someone to Christ Jesus. Start with the Gospel of John and rely upon the Holy Spirit to reveal God’s truth that we are all sinners and in need of a Savior.

Question: How do I approach someone I suspect has homosexual tendencies?
Answer: Be very, very careful. Having a suspicion someone is struggling with homosexuality versus knowing is extremely different. Never, ever approach someone about their sexuality on a hunch. The potential for doing far more harm than good is considerable. Consider the pain that may be inflicted if you are wrong.

Question: How do you respond to someone who says they were born a homosexual?
Answer: The ‘born gay’ theory, notion or opinion first and foremost violates and contradicts Scripture. God has clearly stated in His Word that ‘homosexual practice’ is a sin. Therefore, why would God then intentionally create a man or woman with same-sex attraction? Also, to date, there are no scientific studies that have conclusively proven homosexuality to be inborn. A gay gene has never been discovered.

Question: Should we as Christians befriend those that participate in the homosexual lifestyle?
Answer: There is a world of difference between ‘acceptance and approval.’ As Christians, we do not want to shun anyone. Most of what they think about us may be exactly what they think about God the Father. Well-defined boundaries are necessary when distinguishing between the person and their actions/lifestyle. Distinguish between ministering to their humanity versus supporting their homosexuality.

Question: Is ‘change’ from homosexuality always instantaneous or is it a process?
Answer: No, more than not, God works through a process that always points to an element of time. Working through past hurts, insecurities, and immaturity is a process for everyone – not just the recovering homosexual. While God can certainly ‘microwave’ our deliverance, He usually works through a process because He molds us into the men and women He intends us to be.

Question: As a Christian, should I attend a same-sex marriage ceremony?
Answer: The answer for any Christian should be “No, thank you.” That said, don’t just decline an invitation to a same-sex wedding. Explain that your decision is based upon principle and not as a judgment on individuals. A Christian should never support any attempt to subvert the sanctity of a man and a woman in marriage as God intended.

Question: Where does it say in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin?
Answer: Genesis 19; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:24-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11; 1 Timothy 1:8-10. The Bible leaves no wiggle-room regarding homosexual practice. Scripture is clear that homosexuality is against God’s original intent.

Question: What is wrong with two people of the same gender loving one another?
Answer: Nothing, unless sexual expression of that love is involved. Yes, “God is love,” (1 John 4:16) but the verse cannot be twisted to support a behavior that contradicts other verses that have clearly established God’s boundaries with regard to sexual intimacy.

Question: Why is looking at pornography so bad?
Answer: Pornography should be seen as the evil that it is. Hate it for what it does to others as well as for what it does to you and your relationship with God. Pornography diseases body, soul and spirit. Pornography (worship of the human body) leads to sexual depravity and disaster. Ultimately, pornography can be summarized as an idol factory.

Question: How can my church truly represent Christ to a homosexual?
Answer: Educate and equip your church regarding God’s truth regarding homosexuality and be careful to focus on a balance of both truth and grace. Also, a powerful ex-gay testimony from the pulpit will grant credibility to the promise and reality of hope that can be found in the power of Jesus Christ. Never, ever open up the wounds of those impacted by homosexuality (or their family members as well) and then leave them with nothing to bandage their hurts.

Question: Is it true that 10% of the population is gay?
Answer: No. The 10% fraud was conceived by Alfred Kinsey in the 1940s. Ultimately, the gay community jumped on the figure and began to promote the idea – often with the help of the media. Some members of the gay community continue to promote the 10% faulty research for social and political gain.

Question: Can a homosexual really change?
Answer: If you believe in an all-powerful God, “Yes!” 1 Corinthians 6 states very clearly, “And this is what some of you were.” Leaving homosexuality behind requires a highly motivated person and a person that “holds unswervingly to the hope (we) profess, for He who promised is faithful.” (Hebrews 10:23)

Question: Why all the bother? My pastor says all homosexuals are going to hell.
Answer: Are alcoholics, liars, gossips, etc., also all going to hell? There isn’t a sliding scale of whose sins are more serious. Frankly, if “brokenness” is the criterion for keeping one out of heaven, then I know of no one that qualifies for entrance into heaven.

Question: What is wrong with children having a set of parents of the same-sex?
Answer: Little boys and girls need the influence of both male and female parents to become who they are meant to be by God. Same-sex parents will inevitably give a child an incomplete understanding of and appreciation for the differences in gender.

Question: How should I respond when I am accused of being homophobic?
Answer: Today, many Christians are being accused and vilified with words like ‘intolerant’ and ‘homophobic.’ Jesus never promised our lives would be easy. In fact, He promised just the opposite; “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.” (Matthew 16:24) To be truly homophobic means one has an irrational fear of homosexuals. Objecting or having an opposing view or belief about homosexual practice is not to be homophobic. Often, very often, a Christian must endure the mockery of society while not apologizing for the truth and authority of Scripture.

Question: Should I make homosexuality the topic of conversation every time I’m around my struggling friend?
Answer: No. If your friend thinks every time he is around you he is going to get a sermon on homosexuality, he will purpose to avoid you. Also, ministering to anyone about homosexuality is not the same as arguing. The very moment your conversation becomes heated or emotional – drop it! The only thing you will achieve is pushing your friend in the wrong direction.

Question: Is there really hope for the homosexual to change?
Answer: Yes. First, recognize that each person is unique. As a result, the struggle with same-sex attraction might be very similar in some ways but can be very different from person-to-person as well. Each man and each woman desiring to leave homosexuality or lesbianism behind must have an unwavering commitment to the ‘process’ regardless of how painful or long it is. The individual must be extremely motivated and “hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for He who promised is faithful.” (Hebrews 10:23)

Question: What is the right motivation in leaving homosexuality behind?
Answer: You must be desperate for change. Make God the Father your primary focus – not heterosexuality. Anyone that makes their primary focus of moving fully into heterosexuality and not achieving ‘obedience’ to God the Father across-the-board, enhances their chances of failure. The opposite of homosexuality is not heterosexuality – it is holiness.

Question: AIDS doesn’t seem to be much in the news anymore. Has the crisis been resolved?
Answer: No. There remains an extremely high percentage of new HIV infections each year occurring among young gay men. While it is true AIDS new drug treatments are enabling people with AIDS to live out a normal life span, many continue to not take prevention seriously. All of the experts agree the only way we will see significant improvement to the ongoing HIV/AIDS pandemic is when people change their behavior.

Question: What if scientists do find a genetic link to homosexuality?
Answer: Would science trump the Word of God? The bottom line for anyone claiming a faith-based on Scripture is that even if a genetic cause for homosexuality is discovered, God’s Word still makes no provision for homosexual behavior.

Today, young men and women are growing up learning that the ideas and images around them about sex, gender, relationships, and marriage are all acceptable and all good. Today, many young people are being encouraged to explore their sexuality. Exploration often has a very high cost.

In Proverbs, it says that “There is no wisdom and no understanding, and no counsel against the Lord.”
Any attempt or effort to redefine homosexual relationships as consistent with biblical faith constitutes an attack upon the very foundations of faith and God’s moral law. Personally, I continue to believe that God’s world-shattering love (seemingly weak and pathetic to some today) will one day return to center stage.

Those of us who know God’s love, redemption, and deliverance are not waiting for the heavens to declare it. We are walking in it now. What is stronger than the forces of hell? The love of God.

For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.” (1 Corinthians 1:25)

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.” (Romans 8:36-37)

“He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you. For to be sure, He was crucified in weakness, yet He lives by God’s power. Likewise, we are weak in Him, yet by God’s power we will live with Him…” (2 Corinthians 13:3-4)

The Bible never speaks positively about homosexuality or any other sexual practices outside a lifelong heterosexual monogamous commitment. Difficult as this standard is to obey, it is the calling of Christ for all His followers, including those with same-sex attractions and desires.

If someone you know is struggling with same-sex attraction, I hope you find the above informative and helpful.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

For years I have had a practice when speaking in a church or conference to eventually make my way to the back of sanctuary or auditorium, look toward the front, and think to myself – “This is good. This is decent. This makes sense.”

The years I lived as a gay-identified man within the gay communities of Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York City produced anything but a good, decent, and sense-filled life. The futility of homosexual practice enabled and produced a false self, a half-person, and left me with a perpetual question mark.

Ultimately, it was the Church that helped me to face reality honestly, compassionately, and courageously. With time, a sense of value, a sense of being loved and accepted, and a sense of living a meaningful life produced the best value of all – human well-being.

Honesty requires I acknowledge there were times of moving into my new life, my new identity, and a new community that was by no means easy. Thankfully and gratefully, within the process, I received an abundance of wise counsel, encouragement, and support.

Today, if I allow myself to look back, I marvel at how easily I became consumed by and locked into a false identity not knowing and realizing I was hopelessly and endlessly searching for “me” in all the wrong places.

The Church that surrounded me treated me with dignity and respect while at the same time being abundantly clear in stating and showing me from Scripture that homosexual behavior is just one of the forms human fallenness can take with divine forgiveness and restoration available to all that surrender to the Lordship of Christ.

To this day, I remain grateful to the Church for helping me to distinguish between healthy and unhealthy desires. It is a fact that truth can hurt, if not cut deeply before it heals. However, truth offered and presented compassionately is more than liberating. When truth becomes known and acted upon, truth frees.

Yes, indeed, Church is good, decent, and makes sense. Where I came from made no sense whatsoever. Truth and reality dictate that until each person comes to grips with this central ethical question – whether and why anything is either right or wrong – they will wander needlessly, hopelessly and God forbid, disastrously adrift.

To speak the truth in love is not to condemn the one to whom it is spoken. Truth is good, truth is decent, truth makes sense, and will defend itself. I remain grateful the Church spoke truth to me.

“Let love be without dissimulation…” (Romans 12:9)

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

After you and I have sung the songs and worshipped at Christmas, and after we have thought again of the true meaning of Christmas, is it possible that we can go back with indifference to life not changed at all? Or will this Christmas possibly burn a new fire and a new hope into our hearts and spirits?

Today, the need for solid, trustworthy Christian leaders has never been greater. Leaders who are willing to take the narrow way that confronts in love and willing to take the risk of being misunderstood and rejected. Today, the Church is in need of leaders whose goal is God’s will rather than man’s and leaders willing to stand in the gap in this troubled age.

Many are rejecting the God of the Bible, calling everything biblical a myth and leading people away from the truth and authority of Scripture while believing they are doing a good thing. Church history clearly dictates the Church has always been challenged to respond to issues of its time. I am convinced God is calling His Church to recommit to biblical standards of holiness.

The silence, disregard and the compromise of the Holy Scriptures with regard to homosexual practice has and is placing God’s Church in a place of abdicating our moral authority to speak to this issue.

Once…

You told me I needed to surrender my life to Christ Jesus and be born-again. I surrendered.

You told me I needed to forsake and repent of homosexual practice. I repented. I turned away.

You told me my mind needed renewing and I needed a life transformation. I willing died to self.

You told me I needed to forsake the gay community and embrace the Church as my new family. I did so by faith.

You regularly encouraged me to share my testimony. I gladly did so to honor Christ Jesus.

You continue to remind me the Church is God’s vehicle to reach the wounded and hurting. I agree.

You told me the Bible is the textbook for life in all matters of faith and practice. I embraced this truth.

You reminded me over and over again, “Jesus remains the same yesterday, today and forever.” (Hebrews 13:8). Indeed and Amen.

The Gospel must be the priority, for the homosexual – just as it must be for us all.

But now, some of you are saying, “Well, maybe homosexuality isn’t so bad after all.” Many of you have lapsed fully into the silent-mode with regard to homosexuality which in and of itself is sending an equally loud message of acceptance and approval.

Parents of the Christ child, Mary, and Joseph, had a tremendous privilege and an awesome responsibility. They had to help Jesus to grow up to understand the importance of God and of doing His will. At least in part, Christmas took hold of Jesus because Joseph and Mary took the significance of Christmas and lived it out before Him.

If Christmas truly means anything to us, our greatest desire should be that those we care about and love in His Name will know, love, and serve Him according to the Holy Scriptures.

The Church must call homosexual practice sin, and that will remain offensive to many. It is the clarity of the Holy Scriptures that should compel each and every faithful follower of Christ Jesus to be a light where there is darkness, rather than hiding the truth and our witness.

It is impossible to validate homosexual practice, in any form and to any degree, from Scripture.

Today, I remain a completely different person so much so I can barely recall what I was like when I surrendered my life to Christ Jesus. It is an undeniable truth that much of what has occurred and changed in my life I attribute to Christians sharing and holding me to The Truth. Today, however, the world and far too much of the Church is abandoning the moral foundation of Scripture and replacing it with complacency, neglect, and lies.

You told me I was not born gay. I embraced this truth.

You told me change is possible. I changed.

You told me my true identity is in Christ Jesus – not my sexuality. True.

You told me to not allow my past to dictate who I am in Christ today. Agreed.

You told me homosexuals are redeemable with God’s grace and power more than sufficient to transform a life. Amen.

You told me sharing the Gospel is not an option for a Christian but rather obedience to a command. Absolutely.

You told me the only way out of homosexuality was through a deep, personal, intimate relationship with Christ Jesus. And, rightfully so because every spiritual problem requires a spiritual solution.

There is no doubt in my mind Mary and Joseph needed to remember Bethlehem often because there were moments in their lives when their faith was tested and tried. I even imagine there were extremely hard and difficult times in their lives when they wondered, “God, where are you?”

Had God really forgotten Joseph and Mary? No. Mary, in particular, would remember that there at Bethlehem, God had not forgotten “anyone” and that He was at work in the world in ways that no one could really see.

Soon enough all of the Christmas decorations will be gone and the Christmas season will once again come to an end. That’s exactly when you and I will need to remember Christmas. We will need to remember that Christmas tells us that where He is, is where we are also. We are not forgotten. We are not alone. In the middle of difficult and life-trying moments, we will need to remember Bethlehem and that God has come. We must never, ever give up on that – we must never lose hold of that.

We must hold on to it with every ounce of faith we have in us because that is what will keep us going on and on.

It was Christians, speaking both truth and grace into my life, that made the difference. I would not be here today without them. My particular sin and brokenness were not overlooked but rather talked about openly and in conjunction with many, many other sins, and for the first time in my life I began to be who God created me to be.

If this world is to understand all that Christmas truly means and represents, they are going to learn it from you and me.

This Christmas, lift Christmas up to God as an offering and carry Christmas into life.

Christians did that for me and I shall forever remain eternally grateful.

“…whatsoever you do, do all to the glory of God.” (1 Corinthians 10:31)

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

phillip-lee5-2016-450sqToday, we live in a generation of excess and abandonment. Everything has become permissible, and now, all across the country, there are wounded lives behind closed doors.

In December of 1998, Joel Yeary, a young boy of nine years old, shared “The World’s Greatest Discovery”, a speech he delivered for the Bank of America Speech Contest at Columbia Elementary. Joel was moved to tears two or three times as the impact of this speech came into his heart. The thought of losing someone he loved to a disease that there is no cure for was very hard to fathom for him.

The World’s Greatest Discovery
Joel Yeary – December 1998

Do you know what virus has infected over 29 million people world wide? Do you know that Africa, South East Asia, USA, Europe, and Latin America have in common? The AIDS Virus. But like cancer, a cure for AIDS has not been found yet. That’s why I believe finding a cure for AIDS will be the greatest discovery.

According to Compton’s Interactive Encyclopedia, AIDS was first found in the U.S. in 1981. At that time there were 189 cases reported. We are not sure where the AIDS virus cam from, but some say it began in Central Africa. The number of people infected with the AIDS virus is expected to rise to over 100 million people by the year 2000.

One reason finding a cure for AIDS is so important is that in the last ten years, AIDS has spread to almost all areas of the world. According to Pastor Phillip Lee of His Way Out Ministries, the virus does not affect just one type of person. Men, women, and children in all areas of life have been infected with the virus that leads to AIDS.

They are looking for a cure so their lives can be spared.

Finding a cure for AIDS will also be good because the virus causes so much damage to the immune system that the body can get many infections that lead to death. An infection like pneumonia is less harmful to people with a normal immune system. But someone with AIDS can get pneumonia and die. A cure for AIDS will be noteworthy because the drugs used now only add a few months to a few years to the lives of AIDS victims, but they don’t cure them. According to Mankind Institute of Cancer and AIDS Research, the drugs used now are very toxic and have major side effects.

Even worse, the AIDS virus begins to resist the treatments after time. Scientists refer to AIDS as a “smart virus” that is always looking for a way to get around the treatments designed to stop it from continuing to the next stage. Sadly, the virus that leads to AIDS transforms itself so fast that right after a drug seems like it is working, scientists find themselves going back to the drawing-board to deal with a new strain.

Most importantly, people we know like basketball super star, Magic Johnson, and people we love like my friend, Pastor Phillip Lee, have the virus that leads to AIDS and will die if a cure is not found. Since time is running out for them, they are using the time they have left to help children, teens and adults think about the choices in their lives that lead them down the past to possible infection by this deadly virus.

When you look and see that over 100 million people in our world will have a disease that can give them only five years to live, I’m sure you will agree with me that finding a cure for AIDS will be the World’s Greatest Discovery.

Very soon, millions of people will be depending on this cure. It might be that your friend, or a person in your family, or even YOU will  need this important discovery.

Joel Yeary

Today, AIDS remains a very serious threat to the quality and sanctify of life. If an AIDS patient has trusted you with the news of their AIDS diagnosis, it is an honor. It means they are willing to share the most vulnerable part of their lives with you and to take the risk that you might possibly reject them or expose them.

Your consistent devoted compassion is vitally important in their lives.

The on-going global crisis with regard to AIDS remains a call for the Church worldwide, and Church leaders in particular, to respond to the AIDS pandemic through a message of Christian hope and compassion. Christians, in particular, are uniquely qualified to bear witness to the world that the One who defeated death offers us the principles and the power to defeat AIDS.

“…Hope in the Lord; for with the Lord there is lovingkindness, and with Him is abundant redemption.” (Psalm 130:7)

When the history of the 21st century is written, may it be said of Christians that we showed the love of Christ by leading the way in defeating AIDS.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

When God is alleged to sanction that which is a direct contradiction of Scripture, a religious travesty is being played out, and boldly. The growing and true dividing line for many today seems to be whether the Bible is inspired and without error in its original delivery to the prophet’s from God, or whether it is just a collection of man-made opinions and myths.

2 Peter 1:21 tells us clearly, “…men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”

It is imperative to remember, when you and I call ourselves a “Christian,” we are, or we should be qualifying and clearly stating that, “we are faithful followers of Christ Jesus and all of His teachings.” Meaning, you and I, as a Christian, embrace the totality of Scripture, or not at all. We do not have the luxury of randomly selecting portions of Scripture and possibly rejecting or discarding the rest.

We can and we must be accepting of the wounded, broken, and hurting, but we should never accept a theology, a behavior, or a way of life that flies in the face of God’s Word. When the denigration of Biblical authority and a coherent definition of family is under attack, The Church has no choice but to challenge and confront. Ultimately, to not do so translates to the Church of Jesus Christ, called and ordained to be the light of the world, as being void and without clear guidance.

When anyone claims homosexual practice (in any form and to any degree) is God’s gift to the Church and to society, then challenge is appropriate. And, yes, there is a right way and a wrong way for that to be accomplished.

The notion that all gay activists want is equal protection under the law is false. The gay agenda has long since won that battle. Ultimately, it is full, total, and complete silencing of any opposing voice, which includes God’s Word. The relentless assault and well-strategized attacks upon conservative biblical teachings on homosexual practice are ongoing. There is no doubt the ultimate goal for some gay activists will continue until Christians or anyone opposing homosexual practice are discredited and silenced, with some gay activists having already concluded, “Christian, you have neither the faith nor the strength to fight, so you might as well just give up.”

There is no doubt the Apostle Paul understood and lived his life as a debtor to everyone on the face of the earth because of the Gospel of Jesus. Do we, as Ambassadors for Christ, realize that same indebtedness to every unsaved soul which includes the vast, enormous, and virtually untouched mission field called “the gay community”?

The Oxford American Dictionary defines “silence” as, “absence of sound; avoidance or absence of speaking or of making a sound; the fact of not mentioning something.”

Today, there is a segment of the Church choosing to consciously and deliberately avoid the subject of homosexuality. God’s Word is not a thing that a person can push around at their convenience. The Bible is a Voice, a Word, the very Word of the living God. The Church must call homosexual practice sin, and that will remain offensive to many.

I would submit that the calamity and dilemma many professing Christians face today with regard to homosexuality is not unlike a time when Elijah spoke and said: “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal is God, follow him. But the people said nothing.” (Kings 18:21)

Therefore, how should the Church be responding to homosexuality?



For some churches, the homophobic attitudes of the past have led many to directly or indirectly reject the homosexual for the sake of maintaining God’s righteous stand. However, some churches now claim an “awakened or enlightened” understanding of homosexual practice and, discarding traditional Biblical teachings and dismissing Christian ethics with regard to God’s divine intent for human sexuality, have opened the Church to unrepentant homosexual behavior. Being led and misguided by the false notion and theory – “born that way” – they reach out with compassion but are sacrificing righteousness in the process. There is another response. One that takes courage and unwavering allegiance to the Authority of Scripture and The Lordship of Jesus Christ.

Through the atonement of Jesus Christ and the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit, God has, is, and will be setting men and women free from the brokenness of same-sex attraction. Why?

“Because Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever!” (Hebrews 13:8)

I hope, I pray, there will be those that will not surrender to the sign of the times and continue to stand for righteousness. Ultimately, the issue for the homosexual is the same as it is for every individual. Where do they stand? Are they dead in sin or alive in Christ? Therefore, we must not withdraw, we must not be silent.

May God grant us courage. It is the clarity of the Holy Scriptures that should compel each and every faithful follower of Christ Jesus to be a light where there is darkness, rather than hiding our witness from those who need it.

Only the Bible gives us the way to eternal life with God, and the true answer to victorious living here on earth. Since God created us, He knows us far better than we can ever know ourselves. He has all power in heaven and earth, and most of all, He loves man.

The Great Light came to extinguish the darkness of hopeless man. Please, do not withhold The Light.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Today, attempts by pro-gay theologians and pro-gay apologists to revise the historic teachings of the Church with regard to homosexual practice are relentless. Admittedly, their effort to persuade the clergy and theologians of the moral legitimacy of homosexual conduct has not been carried out in a vacuum. Battles continue, as those who favor homosexual practice promote the notion that there is no clear answer to the issue. There are even those that attempt to persuade under the banners of ‘love’ and ‘commitment’ that homosexual relationships be justified.

There are powerful forces at work with the enemy having accomplished much by utilizing his divide and conquer tactics. Clearly, many are now worshipping another Jesus. A Jesus which has been created by man that requires absolutely no sacrifice, makes no demands of obedience, and is completely and totally silent when it comes to sexual sin.

Scripturally speaking, what do we know about homosexuality?

  • We are created beings and created with a specific intent. (Genesis 1:26-2:23) God’s blueprint for human sexuality as found in Genesis 1 and 2, clearly establishes that from the beginning God had a divine intent for human sexuality with well-defined holy boundary lines to live within regarding sexual expression.
  • God’s divine intent for human sexuality is fulfilled within the covenant of a monogamous and heterosexual union. (Matthew 19:4-6)
  • We are a fallen race, and the Fall has marred every part of our experience, including our sexual experience. (Romans 5:12-19)
  • Homosexuality is a manifestation of fallen nature and it violates created intent. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
  • Homosexuals are redeemable and change is possible. (1 Corinthians 6:11)

Nowhere within the totality of Scripture will you find even one positive statement about homosexual practice. Every time homosexuality is mentioned it is always mentioned as a behavior in which no man or woman is to practice. Difficult as this standard is to obey, it is the calling of Christ for all His followers, including those with same-sex attractions and desires.

The problem with pro-gay theologians and pro-gay apologists is their theorizing and speculating on what Scripture does not say about homosexuality while a true faithful follower of Christ Jesus stands upon the clarity and authority of Scripture regarding homosexual practice. Revisionists can justify virtually any type of sexual relationship, including those traditionally and historically considered immoral.

Revisionists have been quite successful in confusing compassion with acceptance of homosexual practice. Those promoting ‘the liberating power of love,’ continue to blur the lines by citing ‘some of God’s Word’ as too repressive. However, Jesus Himself repeatedly affirmed the relevance and importance of moral law:

Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets, I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)

Ultimately, any effort to redefine homosexual practice (in any form and to any degree) as acceptable and consistent with biblical faith constitutes an attack upon the very foundations of the Christian faith and Church.

As revisionist attacks will no doubt continue, faithful followers of the teachings of Christ must continue to counter any and all attempts to make homosexuality morally acceptable. Not doing so would undermine the traditional and historic Christian understanding regarding sexual morality.

The Gospel message that Jesus preached was and is a message of repentance and surrender. Like Jesus, His followers are to suffer the rejection of the world. We are intended to be at odds with the thinking and attitudes of this world. To water down the Gospel to make it acceptable is to lose the truth and life of God’s message.

In a world that is rapidly accepting everything and tolerating anything, faithful followers of Christ Jesus must be extremely careful. Many false teachers exist today with their underlying message being homosexuality is acceptable for anyone who wants to engage in it – a direct contradiction of Scripture.

Today, virtually nothing in society promotes the truth about homosexuality. The lies that homosexuality is a fulfilling, normal and healthy alternative saturate the media. Many are tenacious and relentless in elevating same-sex desire to the level of a moral norm.

The Church is presently faced with a challenge the significance of which is nearly impossible to exaggerate. Is ‘tolerance’ to be extended without limitation to any and all kinds of sexual expression? Is any kind of sexual relationship scripturally permissible as long as it is ‘consensual’? Does it all come down to a matter of personal taste?

I still believe the Church remains God’s vehicle to reach wounded, broken, hurting humanity. Therefore, may we, His Church:

  • Affirm the biblical position that God loves all persons, with homosexuality being one sin among many others, and that the Holy Spirit is available to transform all persons, including the same-sex attracted individual.
  • Minister to persons with unwanted same-sex attraction and their families as partners in Christ’s work of healing and transformation.
  • Call the Church to recognize and confess its need for repentance of its welcoming and affirming of homosexual practice in the Church.

He has shown you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8)

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

“Research has shown that if you are in a community that is getting healthy or overcoming something difficult, your chances go way, way up.” Dr. Henry Cloud

I came across the above quote which caused me to pause and consider just how many Christian families are now coming to His Way Out Ministries from various cities that surround Bakersfield.

Christian families from Pleasanton, Hanford, Visalia, Porterville, Tehachapi, Ventura, Santa Clarita, Lancaster, Ridgecrest, Wasco, Delano, Lake Isabella, Oxnard, and San Luis Obispo, all in crisis but wanting to make godly choices in response to an issue facing their family.

For Christian parents, in particular, wading through the tsunami of emotions that accompany the announcement of, “Mom, Dad, I’m gay!” are all but swallowed up in, “Where do we go from here?”

Mom, Dad, first and foremost remember that you are a child of God, and He has plans to, “prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.” He has promised to be with you always, no matter what kind of calamity or mud pit in which you may find yourself.

Give yourself permission to wade through the myriad of real and genuine emotions. Today, with so much of society and the church being dysfunctional, it is often no small task in being comfortable with owning our feelings. Tragically, some Christian parents with gay-identified children have been told, “Don’t cry,” or “You shouldn’t feel that way.”

The challenge? To look through the eyes of faith which enables the acceptance of the present reality and ultimately produces, “What now, Lord?” rather than, “Why?” In other words, hold on to God’s promises.

Indeed, loving a wayward child the way God loves them means loving them unconditionally. It also means accepting the truth and reality that only God can bring about the change in them you hope and pray to witness. It wasn’t until many years down the road of a new life in Christ Jesus that my mother shared with me…”You don’t know how many times in prayer I got in the enemy’s face and said ‘I don’t care what he has done or even how many times he has done it, in Jesus’ Name, devil, you can’t have him any more!'”

Choose today to “act” rather than “react” to the unwanted circumstance(s) that have come into your life. Seek a support group, a care group, a community in which you can be real by sharing your legitimate concerns. Those in the group need not be experts on the subject of homosexuality and they may not have ever experienced this kind of crisis themselves, but if they are compassionate people, they can give you a great deal of emotional support and nurturing.

Personally, I have the utmost respect and admiration for each and every Christian family that blends uncompromised grace and truth with regard to homosexuality. In doing so, they enable and provide God the opportunity to remind just how big He is and shall forever remain. Refuse to sidestep either truth or grace by speaking clear truth about every and any issue.

Even in the crisis, because Jesus is there with you, life has any and all infinite possibilities.

The storms of life will undoubtedly do everything they possibly can to rip apart the hope we have in Christ Jesus. However, as we each seek Him with all our hearts, often within the fellowship and community of believers, behind each circumstance, each question and each answer stands the only One who can really help any of us. Truly, God knows.

Scripture clearly defines the Church as family. (1 Timothy 5:1-2; 2 Timothy 1:2-5; Hebrews 12:7-10) Having a safe environment and the opportunity to be transparent with one another enables the opportunity to unlock the excessive pressures of this journey called life and relieves pent-up emotions.

Keep Romans 8:28 forever in your heart. God’s promise that “all things work together for good” even when things seem to be shattered should take a high position on the priority list of verses on suffering. And consider “In love’s service, only the wounded can serve, for they alone understand the cry of the bleeding heart.”

At His Way Out Ministries, we have found and continue to see and understand the wisdom of Ecclesiastes 4:9-10: “two can accomplish more than twice as much as one, for the results can be much better. If one falls, the other pulls him up; but if a man falls when he is alone, he is in trouble.”

There is much to be said for gathering together. At His Way Out Ministries, while we do not presume to have all the answers, but we do understand the human struggle related to the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

You are welcome here with people on the same-like journey. We are here to listen, support, encourage, and walk with you beyond, “Why?” to, “What now, Lord?”

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 1, Episode 12
Our twelfth broadcast is titled “Letting Go”. As Christians, a huge challenge is giving our loved one over to the Lord. If our prayers go something like, “God, do this,” or “God, don’t allow this,” our prayers need to become, “Lord, I ask you to bring my loved one to You in any way You choose.” Letting go goes against our very nature. However, if we want God to work in the situation, we must let Him do it His way.

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