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I returned from the Marriage, Family Life, and Sexual Health Conference with 49 index cards – each card offering a question about homosexuality by an individual or family in attendance for the one-day conference. Of the 49 cards, 7 of the cards posed questions related to, “How does one resolve the issue of same-sex attraction?” The remaining 42 cards all focused upon, “How do I reach out to my gay-identified friend or family member with love, mercy, gentleness, and compassion while not compromising the truth and clarity of Scripture with regard to homosexual practice?”

Based upon my travels through churches of various denominations here in America and overseas, congregation members are not being equipped and educated on the complexities of same-sex attraction and related issues, and as a result are paying a very high price, if not feeling like failures. As one man shared with me at a recent conference, “We’re getting slammed due to a lack of knowledge and practical tools that would help us be more effective in reasoning with and reaching those that promote the ‘gay is good’ notion.”

It is an undeniable fact that homosexual activists are highly organized, have a strategic plan, and are gaining public acceptance with regard to their beliefs and cause. Today, with everyone knowing at least one person who experiences same-sex attraction, why are we, the Church, still so ill-equipped to help those who are being held captive by the brokenness of same-sex attraction? Especially, with regard to congregation members that are clearly and undeniably hungry to be educated and equipped.

Today, not only are believers falling into homosexual sin and legitimizing it but many within the uninformed Church are applauding them as they do. Laws are being changed, homosexual marriage is marching from state to state and nation to nation. Educational systems are becoming more tolerant of homosexual practice by falsely teaching pro-homosexual lessons through health education curriculum. And, far too many churches and Christian organizations are giving a friendly nod to gay ideology, making Isaiah’s famous warning more relevant than ever:

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness” (Isaiah 5:20).

Clearly, we, the Church, need to acknowledge and address our own dysfunctionality of not complying with the Gospel. Or, permit me to say it this way…

If we are not educating and equipping the Church with practical tools to be more effective in reaching those with unwanted same-sex attraction and offering ministry to those with unwanted same-sex attraction, we are not fulfilling The Great Commission.

I believe any concerned individual who cares enough to be educated on the subject of homosexuality is then more than able to introduce the ministry of transformation to a local congregation. We, the Church, must be a witness to society that we are educated on the brokenness of same-sex attraction and we can also discuss and even debate this issue in love so that the Church will be a model for reconciliation with God and with others.

Personally, I remain concerned we the Church are often more concerned about “those out there” who are suffering injustice than we appear to be concerned about our own who are suffering the needless pain that this life can sometimes bring. We can not hold back needed ministry because of the objections of a few.

We must affirm the biblical position that God loves all people, that homosexual practice is one sin among many and that the Holy Spirit is available to transform all persons – including homosexual persons.

We must minister to persons struggling with homosexuality, their families, and all others affected by homosexuality as partners in Christ’s work of healing while integrating all persons striving to live as faithful disciples of Jesus Christ into full membership in the local church.

While we, in and of ourselves cannot promise healing to any person, even though we are convinced that God can and does heal many, we must continue to see the Body of Christ as the primary agent for any and all transformation. The ministry of hope, healing, wholeness, and transformation takes place in the Body of Christ, The Church.

It is imperative the Body of Christ stand against current trends in today’s society that have and continue to distort human sexuality as God intended and created it.

In the end, we will be successful by extending a ministry solution. We are individually and collectively part of God’s plan by offering the ministry of transformation and humbly realizing God has called us to partner with Him in His plan.

What a privilege. What an honor. What a responsibility.

“…where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty” (2 Corinthians 3:17).

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Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Holy Spirit Renewal Conference
Green Lake Conference Center, Green Lake, Wisconsin
June 30, 2021 Morning General Session

Introduction by Dr. John Piippo, Senior Pastor, Redeemer Fellowship Church, Monroe, Michigan

In his General Session message at the Holy Spirit Renewal Conference in Green Lake, Wisconson, Pastor Phillip Lee shares testimony (dialog) of an interview with a reporter challenging if change is possible for the same-sex attracted and the crisis of prominent Christian leadership allowing secular guidance to trump Biblical teaching resulting in God’s truth being avoided, withheld, minimized, and revised.

2021 Holy Spirit Renewal Conference, Pastor Phillip Lee pt2
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Today, more than ever, men and women (heterosexual or homosexual) face the relentless onslaught of staying pure in a very, very impure world. The music industry, news media, educational system, TV and the Internet are keeping all of us completely saturated in a lust-filled atmosphere. The end result for many has become the insatiable quest for pleasing “self” which takes each individual outside of God’s will, plan, and purpose and not trusting Him to supply all of their needs. In America, especially, ‘feeling good’ has become a narcotic.

When anyone, homosexual or heterosexual, takes matters into their own hands and makes the conscious choice to stray beyond God’s holy boundary lines with regard to sexual expression, the formula for bringing terrible consequences upon ourselves is set.

I believe we all should accept the fact that as long as we are on this earth, we will all be engaged in combating something. The undeniable truth is that our flesh will always be at war with the Spirit of God.

“For the flesh lusts against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things you wish.” (Galatians 5:17)

That said, it remains important for each and every one of us to remember that even though we live in a culture that promotes a love of pleasure and self-indulgence, Jesus will never ask anything of us that is impossible for us to obey.

Many men and women today have made the quest for “love” the omnipotent, validating quality which has the power to validate anything that is done in its name which includes frequent sexual activity. Tragically, many now view “sex” as the byword for “love.”

Habitual sex, for many, has become a protective mechanism, a wall that endeavors to protect one’s self because a fear of truly being intimate exists largely due to unresolved wounds and past hurts. In other words, the brokenness of our self-image and love of sin must be and can only be quenched by the reality of receiving the greatness of God’s love.

This Scriptural truth enables and sets the stage for a transformation of our will.
Something sexual activity alone can never, ever accomplish.

Admittedly, we are sexual beings. That is how God created us. Ultimately, our sexuality is a wonderful gift from God providing sexual expression remains within His well-defined holy boundary lines. Habitual sexual activity perpetuates a downward spiral which most definitely clouds one’s judgment and ultimately hardens our heart. True intimacy or closeness with another human being becomes impaired and the life-giving flow of God that we all need desperately in our lives becomes strained.

Each and every one of us will always be left with the choice of whether to stop a sinful behavior or not, even after God pours His grace upon us enabling us to stop. Sex alone can never fill the void, emptiness, the deficit that exists in the human heart. The inner emotional drive which compels many to commit habitual sexual scenarios can only be healed, transformed, and filled by God.

God often challenges us to achieve victory and competence in the very areas of our lives where we feel we lack ability. I submit He does not do this to frustrate us or even to deny us, but rather to fulfill the right and true desires of our hearts.

The Good News remains that if we let Jesus into our sexuality and heart, we will begin to heal and experience an intimacy with God that defies explanation. An intimate sexual activity alone can never fulfill. Rather than caving in to complete despair because of the battle or desires of the flesh, hold on to the fact there is strength (overcoming strength) and hope because Jesus Himself promises us that we would never be forsaken or snatched from His hand (John 10:28).

The Lord Jesus will keep anyone who wants to be kept.

“Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.” (Romans 8:37)

“This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down His life for us.” (1 John 3:16)

May we all have the courage, conviction, and commitment to do what is right in His sight.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Holy Spirit Renewal Conference
Green Lake Conference Center, Green Lake, Wisconsin
June 30, 2021 Morning General Session

Introduction by Dr. John Piippo, Senior Pastor, Redeemer Fellowship Church, Monroe, Michigan

In his General Session message at the Holy Spirit Renewal Conference in Green Lake, Wisconson, Pastor Phillip Lee shares testimony (dialog) of an interview with a reporter challenging if change is possible for the same-sex attracted and the crisis of prominent Christian leadership allowing secular guidance to trump Biblical teaching resulting in God’s truth being avoided, withheld, minimized, and revised.

2021 Holy Spirit Renewal Conference, Pastor Phillip Lee pt1
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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

“Restoration comes when you realize the light at the end of the tunnel is NOT a train!”(Lessons learned from the pit. Ugh!)

Today, often caught in the middle of the emotional conflict regarding “change” is the person who struggles with unwanted same-sex attraction. To him, (and I use the pronoun generically for both men and women) the issue of change is more than just an issue of emotional debate. It strikes at the very core of his being, either bringing hope or despair.

The Oxford American Dictionary defines change as to make or become different; to pass from one form or phase into another. Certainly, for any individual the greatest change is to become a Christian and know that your ultimate eternal destination has been changed from hell to heaven; to become born-again.

Having been around the phenomenon of change for quite some time, I am convinced that much of the conflict regarding same-sex attraction and change comes from a misunderstanding of the meaning of change. Redemptive changes occur in all healing, restoration processes, our past involvement in sinful behavior, and what it was that pushed us toward the particular sin in the first place. With same-sex attraction, it is no different. The contributing factors to a person having an issue with same-sex attraction are numerous and complex. However, that does not minimize God’s power and sovereignty, nor does it change the undeniable biblical evidence that God can change the life of a person involved in homosexuality. Homosexuals have been experiencing change since the Bible was written. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

It occurred to me early on in my new life in Christ Jesus that the Gospel never once stated “come as you are and stay as you are” but rather “come as you are to be restored and transformed.”

Not unlike a multitude of others, I thought (at least to a degree), that a lot of my “stuff” would instantaneously just “poof” and disappear. It didn’t occur to me that I did not arrive at my broken place in life overnight, therefore not everything was going to be resolved overnight. I had programmed deep into my thinking a whole truckload of experiences, activities, and beliefs that were anything but what God had intended. And, nobody pushed the “clear button” when I became a believer. All of that stuff (lies) was recorded in my mind and enabled the strongholds which directly affected how I say myself and others.

And, so, began a process of spiritual growth that continues to this day. I began facing and working through character faults, past hurts, immaturities, and a list of insecurities. You know, stuff! Often taking life disappointments and broken dreams to Jesus. Only He truly knows the answers to your problems.

One of the biggest and highest hurdles I first had to face down was the admittance I needed to make changes. Frankly, having to admit I needed to change was pretty tough since I could recall having same-gender attraction for as long as I could remember, and those feelings and emotions ‘felt’ natural. Ultimately, admitting that change was needed and necessary translated to “there’s something wrong with the way I am and the way I live.” You know, that’s a huge blow to one’s ego especially when you come to the realization that the changes needed cannot be accomplished alone.

I would definitely equate leaving homosexuality as comparable to submitting to major spiritual surgery. Bam! Instantaneously, your whole identity becomes in absolute turmoil. That should not be so surprising since anytime we make a change in our behavior, it is usually because the pain involved in that behavior far outweighs the pleasure. Maybe you noticed as I did many, many years ago that while we know intellectually that we must make a change, our feelings do not necessarily follow – men and women that say goodbye to homosexuality or lesbianism, experience grief, disorientation, and confusion. This is because someone we have known, been well acquainted with for a long, long time, is now dying. It is perfectly understandable that this loss impacts our lives and we grieve.

How well I remember launching out into the very, very uncomfortable dimension of the restoration process by opening up and placing under the Holy Ghost microscope, old, unresolved wounds. Ugh! I hated “going there” but I also understood that implementing necessary changes in my life necessitated retracing certain steps that enabled me to arrive at such a desperate place in life. Identifying painful situations which enabled the brokenness of same-sex attraction and working through them is just part of the whole process.

I am often asked, “Why do some make it out of homosexuality while others don’t?” I am convinced the common denominator among the men and women that have experienced a significant change in their lives involved the consideration of total surrender and control in their lives. In other words, nothing short of total commitment to the will of God (despite feelings, emotions, hormones, temptations, etc.) holds the same-sex attracted individual to the discipline needed for change. Ultimately, it is the individual’s decision and follow-through of putting God on the throne of his or her life instead of self.

Freedom, change, healing, restoration only occurs when we look upward to Jesus and are purposed to enter more deeply into fellowship with Him. As our Creator, God is the only one who knows exactly how to restore us and bring about change.

“I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.” (John 12:24-25 NIV)

Here’s a thought. When an individual who was once controlled by his or her sin is now free from that sin and engaged in a new kind of life pattern, hasn’t change occurred?

One day (I remember this so well), I had one of those “Ah-Ha!” moments. It finally hit me after a very, very long period of time that I was most definitely a “guy” that just happened to have different interests, gifts, and talents that did not necessarily match the abilities, gifts, and talents of others. No gender confusion, just gifts God had granted me and placed within me to ultimately honor and glorify Him. I have heard it said, “Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.” Boy had I bought into a truckload of negatives about myself.

Thank you Jesus for leaving the light on for me to find my way out of the negatives and darkness.

Oswald Chambers states in My Utmost for His Highest, “A man is a slave for obeying unless behind his obedience there is recognition of a Holy God.” I find it remarkable that God never insists on our obedience, but when we truly know Him, we want to instantly obey Him, change, and live according to His perfect will from sunup to sundown.

To this day, I thank God I did not become a Christian to leave homosexuality. I became a Christian because Jesus just made sense. Heaven knows, where I came from and what I was doing made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Today, I continue to find that God will take me as far as I am willing to go. The path of healing from same-sex attraction comes about only through a genuine and intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. The addiction and bondage to homosexuality can be broken. I say “can be” because Jesus has given us free will. The essential first step is wanting Christ and all that He offers.

The only remedy for any lie you may have embraced or bought into about yourself or homosexuality is to confront it with truth…His truth.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Joe Dallas

Season 5, Episode 22
Special Guest: Joe Dallas, ordained pastoral counselor, speaker, and author of numerous books including Speaking of Homosexuality, The Gay Gospel, When Homosexuality Hits Home, and The Complete Christian Guide to Understanding Homosexuality.

Pastor Phillip and Joe Dallas continue discussing Can Homosexuals Really Change, What is Pro-Gay Theology, What is the Real Crisis We Face Today, Truth and Grace, The Gay Christian, and When Homosexuality Hits Home.

HWOM Podcast with Joe Dallas pt2
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“They were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage…but then it started to rain.” (Luke 17:27)

While homosexuality has become perhaps the most controversial social issue of our time, often resulting in a host of challenging, if not divisive questions, it is also an undeniable fact the homosexual community, through a masterful plan, has achieved monumental results in a very, very short period of time. There is no doubt that homosexuality (an identity based on sexual preference) is a multi-dimensional phenomenon.

Today, the homosexual agenda continues its march from state to state and nation to nation. Education systems have become much more tolerant and sensitive to LGBT students with false pro-homosexual lessons being taught through health education curriculum. Religious institutions have and continue to revise the historic teachings on homosexual practice by caving to social trends in order to accommodate active homosexuals. There is no question as to the media and movies having become pulpits relentlessly promoting homosexual practice often without question, challenge or debate. Compounding the crisis and continuing to fuel the phenomenon is the reluctance, if not total disregard by scientific organizations and churches, to allow any discussion about the causes and the resolving of unwanted same-sex attraction.

No doubt, the pinnacle of success for the homosexual community has been the legalization of same-sex marriage. The homosexual community successfully and dramatically blurred the lines enough making “love” the ingredient, the quality which has the power to validate anything that is done in its name.

The homosexual community, though a relatively small segment of society, has nevertheless become extremely significant and influential. And, so it seems, the achievements and the power of the politically organized and active homosexual community has it all.

But is this really the case?

“…sin is fun for a season.” (Hebrews 11:25)

Beginning to surface more and more by both men and women practicing homosexuality, largely influenced and generated by the accomplishments of the homosexual community, is a sense and questioning of true personal value, a true sense of being loved and accepted, and a sense (question) of living a meaningful life. In other words…

“Those of us that proudly proclaim to be gay-identified and now have the legal right to pursue what we deem ‘natural,’ free from any and all forms of discrimination based on orientation and/or behavior, free to be, free to do, free to go, socially accepted, and free to practice a sexual preference in a social environment free from prejudicial treatment even by those who find such behavior completely unacceptable, even free from religious establishments…”

“Why aren’t all these freedoms freeing?”
“Why am I still so empty?”
“Why isn’t this working for me?”

“…He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)

Homosexuality, rather than being a divine gift that needs to be celebrated, is now being seen as anything but ‘gay’ by many.

And, they will be turning to the Church in greater numbers.

Those making the decision to leave homosexual practice and the gay community will not just be abstaining from or abandoning sexual sin, they will be disconnecting from a whole network of support and an identity. Having made the right choice to say “No!” to homosexual practice, they will be arriving on our church doorsteps with absolutely nothing.

Will we, God’s people, celebrate the decision of the homosexual who has said “Yes” to God and “No” to homosexuality?

Will we, God’s people, be abundantly clear in affirming the biblical position that God loves all people, that homosexual practice is but one sin among many and that the Holy Spirit is available to transform all persons – including homosexual persons?

Will we, God’s people, minister to persons struggling with homosexuality, their families, and all others affected by homosexuality as partners in Christ’s work of healing?

Will we, God’s people, integrate all persons striving to live as faithful disciples of Jesus Christ into full membership in the local church?

“Indeed, it is raining but not just on the homosexual.”

“In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.” (Acts 2:17)

All Christians are part of God’s overall plan for the redemption of the world. To say, “The Church is of God,” means that we are not part of some optional and respectable social club.

The Church is called by God “out of the world” in order to transform the world.

Each of us, then, is part of God’s plan.

“A much-needed later rain has begun.”

“Pastor, the homosexuals are coming, the homosexuals are coming!”

“Wonderful! They can have a seat next to the gossips, those having sex before marriage, the adulterers, the liars, those that drink excessively, the greedy…”

We, His Church, must stand for Jesus Christ and witness to His grace and power – to and for all people.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Joe Dallas

Season 5, Episode 21
Special Guest: Joe Dallas, ordained pastoral counselor, speaker, and author of numerous books including Speaking of Homosexuality, The Gay Gospel, When Homosexuality Hits Home, and The Complete Christian Guide to Understanding Homosexuality.

Joe begins our broadcast by sharing his story of how same-sex attraction impacted his life and what ultimately caused him to surrender to the Lordship of Christ. We ultimately turn our attention to and discuss: Can Homosexuals Really Change, What is Pro-Gay Theology, What is the Real Crisis We Face Today, Truth and Grace, The Gay Christian, and When Homosexuality Hits Home.

HWOM Podcast with Joe Dallas pt1
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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

“HIV infection is up 132.5 percent among young gay men. And we have no one to blame but ourselves.” The Advocate, which proclaims itself the leading authority for up-to-date LGBT news, offered an article titled “7 Ways the Gay Community Is Failing Our Youth on HIV” on August 12, 2015.

When it comes to the subjects of homosexuality and HIV/AIDS, I withdrew from endeavoring to be both politically correct and “church correct” many, many years ago. For far too many youths today, morality has become purely a matter of personal taste. Regarding sexual expression, opinions vary on how best to attain fulfillment, and in the thinking of many people, these differences are nothing more than opinions. From this perspective, regardless of one’s personal view or opinion on sexual expression, sex outside of marriage between one man and one woman or remaining celibate as a single man or woman, has been reduced to a matter of personal preference or expression.

Today, one youth’s promiscuity is another youth’s monogamy when it comes to homosexual practice. That said, in all fairness, the same could be said for heterosexuals as well. But in either case, the facts are undeniably true there is a demonstrable relationship between promiscuity and high-risk sexual behavior. They are synonymous.

As a resident of San Francisco and member of the gay community in 1980, I personally witnessed the tragedy of HIV/AIDS unfold with some of my dearest and closest friends being the first to pass away from the disease. As a Christian, I believe in the sanctity of life. All life is sacred and deserves to be celebrated. I am confident my stating I am a Christian has probably struck a nerve given the odds at which the gay community and the Christian community frequently find themselves.

“I’m so troubled and confused. There are so many mixed messages being generated about homosexuality,” are frequent statements offered by youth. To compound the crisis, youth today are hearing virtually nothing about the ongoing AIDS crisis. Many of the youth are Christians, each having been raised in Church and reared in a Christian home. Therefore, once again, we find “the elephant in the home and in the sanctuary” that very, very few will discuss leaving them vulnerable and unaware of the very real and present danger.

It is the muted nature of discussions on HIV/AIDS that has led to a false belief that HIV is the problem of other people. Please hear me clearly. HIV/AIDS does not care if you are rich or poor, American or African, young or old and HIV/AIDS does not care if you are a Christian or not. One wrong move and your life will be changed forever. There is great, great reward in living our lives within God’s holy boundary lines.

Youth need to be clearly discipled in the truth and reality that God has given each and every one of us free will choice. Without free will choice, there is no such thing as true, pure, undefiled love. However, present realities dictate with regard to HIV/AIDS that when we exercise our free-will choice, we do not get to choose the consequence that may come our way as a result of our bad choice.

These are perilous times for youth when it comes to the topic of homosexuality and sexual expression. Therefore, in the name of decency, true compassion, and humanity, every church without exception should have a very frank discussion about sexual promiscuity and HIV/AIDS.

Why would anyone encourage or promote a behavior (any behavior) which has all probability of dramatically shortening or taking one’s life? Would someone please explain this to me?

And, for the sake of clarification, the silent-mode treatment with regard to sexual promiscuity and HIV/AIDS results in many youths not knowing about the health risks, which is why they aren’t concerned with contracting HIV/AIDS.

I remain grieved and concerned that American culture remains in the very tight grip of political correctness and “church correctness” when any expression of concern or disagreement with any aspect of the homosexual movement, or with homosexuality itself is expressed.

I have said before, but it seems appropriate to offer once again the statement “there was a time when the Church set societal standards.” It is time, and long overdue, that we took the role and the God-given mandate by God Himself back.

Reaching youth is something we all can do and must do to help searching youth understand God’s abundant plans for their lives and to counteract any agenda that desires to ruin all hope for the youth.

To speak the truth in love to a youth is not to condemn the one to whom it is spoken. Not once did Jesus ever shrink back from speaking hard, sometimes stinging words of warning to those whom He undoubtedly loved.

May we, individually and collectively, have the courage and compassion of our perfect role model, Jesus Christ.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Joel Splawn

Season 5, Episode 5
Pastor Phillip Lee and special guest Pastor Joel Splawn, Senior Pastor, Kern Christian Church, Lake Isabella, CA.

Is there any allowance in Scripture for homosexual practice? If I disagree with homosexual practice does that make me a bigot, hateful, or homophobic? Is change possible for the homosexual? How should a pastor lead his congregation to effectively love homosexuals? There was a time when objective moral truth was acknowledged in America as something that could be found in, and drawn from the Bible.

Pastor Joel also shares in great detail his own battle with same-sex attraction and how powerfully God moved in his life enabling him to be an overcomer.

Listen online or download the podcast.

In Truth and Love with Joel Splawn pt2
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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

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