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While those words correctly define my personal reality regarding homosexual practice, my friends did not survive.

If you are experiencing same-sex attraction and are considering embracing the feelings and attractions of such, before jumping into a behavior and identity with highly probable and serious consequences, please get the facts – all the facts.

Sexual pleasure, good in and of itself within the proper context, is nevertheless not an essential requirement for human well-being.

Today, there is no guarantee that social policy is exempt from foolishness. Ultimately, the social pressure that exists to protect “gay” from discrimination has resulted in a tragically dangerous code.

While I personally deplore any and all forms of “gay-bashing” and other hate crimes against homosexuals, the extreme medical risks and the fundamental psychological problems often associated with homosexual practice, cannot be undermined or dismissed.

Today, in America, very little is being offered which promotes the truth about homosexuality and the general public is slowly but certainly beginning to believe the many untruths with regard to the topic of homosexuality. This did not happen by accident.

In December 1973, by a narrow vote, homosexuality was removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder (DSM) by the American Psychiatric Association. The vote was not based upon scientific research but on political pressure from homosexual activists. So much for an individual’s right of self-determination to address their unwanted homosexual feelings and behavior. In a nutshell, the problem is the politicization of psychiatry, psychology, and most definitely, the Bible, to the extent that the freedom to investigate and treat homosexuality has been and continues to be under serious attack.

During my 17 years yeas as ‘gay,’ I personally witnessed far too many lives devastated and some taking their own lives over the celebration of ‘gay.’ In each and every case the ruin and carnage was not brought about by the individual trying to resolve their same-gender attraction.

Personally-speaking, it is a fact because of very real discrimination, homosexual activists created a brilliant strategic plan to gain across-the-board acceptance. Yet their plan was and is based upon a flawed paradigm to persuade people they were born with same-gender attraction and they cannot change. This strategy has worked. But the biggest losers just may be homosexual men and women who may get everything they think they want, but will they be denied what they truly need?

The welfare of both individuals and society as a whole depends upon our facing reality honestly, compassionately and courageously – which requires facts – all the facts.

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Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:30am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 5, Episode 4
Pastor Phillip Lee and special guest Pastor Joel Splawn, Senior Pastor, Kern Christian Church, Lake Isabella, CA.

Is there any allowance in Scripture for homosexual practice? If I disagree with homosexual practice does that make me a bigot, hateful, or homophobic? Is change possible for the homosexual? How should a pastor lead his congregation to effectively love homosexuals? There was a time when objective moral truth was acknowledged in America as something that could be found in, and drawn from the Bible.

Pastor Joel also shares in great detail his own battle with same-sex attraction and how powerfully God moved in his life enabling him to be an overcomer.

Listen online or download the podcast.

In Truth and Love with Joel Splawn pt1
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Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Joel Splawn

“The harm I witnessed in many lives and personally experienced as well, did not occur as a result of attempting to work through our unwanted issue of same-sex attraction but rather over and through our celebration of ‘gay.'” – Phillip Lee

There is no question that a goal of the gay liberation movement is to achieve a nationwide ban on counseling for individuals with same-sex attraction claiming “change is not possible” and to say that it is “too harmful.”

In my view, there continues to be relentless social pressure to protect “gays” from discrimination, but also from any form of disagreement, which from personal experience, is tragically promoting a dangerous philosophy.

I find this cause to be even more than intriguing since there is great diversity and disagreement in the gay community over fundamental basics such as “what it means to be gay or lesbian.” The gay community is hardly a unified front as many would have us believe.

While I personally deplore any and all forms of “gay-bashing” and other hate crimes against homosexuals, the extreme medical risks and the fundamental psychological problems often associated with homosexual practice cannot be undermined or dismissed.

That said, today, whether homosexual or heterosexual, the relationship between sexual promiscuity and high-risk sexual behavior are joined at the hip. This is not judgment but rather a fact of life.

In America, very little is being offered which promotes the truth about homosexuality and the general public has slowly but certainly bought into the many untruths with regard to the topic of homosexuality. This did not happen by accident.

In December 1973, by a narrow vote, homosexuality was removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder (DSM) by the American Psychiatric Association. The vote was not based upon scientific research but on political pressure from homosexual activists.

So much for an individual’s right of self-determination to address their unwanted homosexual feelings and behavior.

In a nutshell, the problem is the politicization of psychiatry, psychology, and most definitely, the Bible, to the extent that the freedom to investigate and address homosexuality has been and continues to be under serious and relentless attack.

Today, in America and around the world, in the name of tolerance, diversity, and equality, often the truth has been suppressed regarding homosexuality. We can and we must reverse the current trend through education, awareness, and understanding.

Yes, because of very real discrimination, homosexual activists created a brilliant strategic plan to gain across-the-board acceptance. Yet their plan was based on a flawed paradigm to persuade people they were born with same-gender attraction and that change is not possible.

It is an undeniable fact this strategy has worked, in spite of no scientific or Bible evidence to support the opinion, notion, or theory.

Ironically, the biggest losers just may be same-sex attracted men and women who may get everything they think they want, but will they be denied what they truly need?

It is impossible to read The Bible and reach any other conclusion other than, “Yes, change is possible.”

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee

Season 2, Episode 20
Keep trying, loving, praying, and looking for ways to reach gay-identified neighbors, friends, and loved ones. In doing so, regardless how they may respond, you will be living out God’s heart. We are called to sacrificial love, to love in the same way Christ loves us.

“As faithful followers of Christ Jesus, we should never sidestep either truth or grace but speak clear truth about every issue and extend grace to every person. This, I believe, is what the Church is called to be, and I am convinced it is what people are looking for today. It was a church like this that saved my life.” – Phillip Lee

Listen online or download the podcast.

Don’t Walk On Eggshells! – Download MP3 –

You are sitting in church, listening to your pastor.

You are following along and taking notes on the very relevant topic of same-sex attraction because what is being shared is not only relevant to our culture but to you personally.

Sitting in church surrounded by fellow believers you are pretty comfortable and content.

But now, you have the task if not the monumental challenge of facing the son or daughter that sees nothing wrong with homosexual practice and is involved in a same-sex relationship.

You are now the one that gets to flesh out the truth you now know. How is that done? What do you do? What don’t you do?

What does representing Christ Jesus in this matter look like?

First and foremost, let’s put even this crisis in its proper context. Embrace the promise of Romans 8:28 that God makes everything – even calamities – work for our good.

  • My first encouragement is to learn as much as you can about the causes of homosexuality. Simply knowing it is wrong is not even close to being enough.
  • Don’t run the matter into the ground every time you see your son or daughter. Often, there can be a good reason(s) for not dealing with a problem right now.
  • Do everything you can to keep the lines of communication open and maintain your relationship. If you feel you have been batting your head against the wall seeking resolution of ‘the problem,’ take a rest. It may not be God’s time to deal with the issue.
  • Make sure your son or daughter is aware of your belief and position regarding homosexual practice. Heaven knows, God can deal with and use our mistakes but He cannot deal with our inaction. Be clear and precise.
  • Do not argue about homosexuality. The very moment the conversation erupts into anger – drop it! Badgering will only produce pushing the individual in the wrong direction. Many problems and issues in life are often solved very indirectly; not when we are consciously dealing with them, but when we are going about our normal lives.
  • It is imperative to distinguish between “acceptance and approval.” It is important to separate, both in our own minds and to our loved ones, their individual worth from the acts of homosexuality they may be committing.
  • Stay completely away from Christian cliches such as: “God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve” and “Love the sinner but hate the sin.” Christian cliches only reinforce the belief of many with same-sex attraction that the Christian community is unwilling to truly educate themselves on the complexities of same-sex attraction.
  • Do not hesitate to admit when and where the Church has been wrong with regard to men and women with same-sex attraction. We, the Church, have made mistakes and in some cases owe the gay community an apology.
  • Refrain from attacking the character of homosexuals when discussing homosexuality. Keep to the real issue: “The real issue is whether or not homosexual practice is, in and of itself, moral.”
  • Do not be discouraged if your conversations do not produce instant fruit. What we will answer to God for is speaking truth lovingly and plainly – not for how our loved one responds.
  • Be relentless in looking for every opportunity to share it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and the indwelling presence of His Spirit which is the foundation needed to overcome same-sex attraction.
  • Release control. Let God decide how to bring freedom. God is the only One who can bring about change in the homosexual.
  • Let the son, daughter and everyone know that God has a reputation of transforming trapped people with damaged sexualities. “And such were some of you” applies to all Christians who had formerly participated in homosexuality. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
  • And, remember, those entangled in sin, of course, will have weak faith, so be merciful to those who doubt.(Jude 22)

Somewhere I read, “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.”

When Jesus Christ is “there,” life has infinite possibilities.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:30am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 5, Episode 3
Pastor Phillip Lee and special guest Pastor Joel Splawn, Senior Pastor, Kern Christian Church, Lake Isabella, CA.

Pastor Joel speaks to the brokenness of same-sex attraction from a personal perspective having been raised in a Christian family environment and church. We also discuss: Is there any allowance in Scripture for homosexual practice? Is change possible for the homosexual? If we disagree with homosexual practice does that make us hateful, a bigot, and homophobic?

Listen online or download the podcast.

Are Christians Exempt with Joel Splawn
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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Joel Splawn

Today, many prefer to continue hiding their heads in the sand, hoping the whole issue will just go away. Others have bought into the politically-correct “tolerance” mode by welcoming unrepentant gays and lesbians into fellowship completely unchallenged. Some churches now perform gay marriages and some denominations are ordaining practicing homosexuals.

In all fairness, the Church has a history of reacting badly towards homosexual men and women and homosexuality itself. People struggling with unwanted same-sex attraction heard jokes about gay people from the pulpit, asked to leave the Church, and at times, told they could never be saved. It is an undeniable fact that the harshness and ridicule from the Church has driven many away.

“They pile up back-breaking burdens and lay them on other men’s shoulders – yet they themselves will not raise a finger to move them.” (Matthew 23:4)

Right now, there are powerful forces at work with regard to homosexuality and related issues. There can be no doubt to the accomplishments of the enemy with his divide and conquer techniques. Today, many are now worshipping a man-created Jesus that requires absolutely no sacrifice, makes no demands of any kind or type of obedience and is completely silent with regard to sexual sin. Does this not qualify as a pagan religion?

Admittedly, we are all in the process of becoming more Christ-like. A process that will continue in each of our lives until we either go home to be with Jesus or He comes back to get us. That said, I am convinced to be Christ-like requires that you and I be willing to enter into the realm of not compromising godly love or Scriptural truth. It means holding to a Biblical position with regard to homosexual practice but doing it in a Christ-like way.

Personally, with each passing day, I become more and more concerned largely due to many giving into the acceptance of both sin and sinner. Today, many are just finding it easier to swing to the extreme left or right, rather than commit to the time and effort to find a Biblical resolution to this problem. This has contributed to a huge divide in the Church.

Go with me here for just a second. Suppose you are the one having battled unwanted same-sex attraction for years. You have spent years in shame and fear hoping you would just snap out of “the condition.” Then, you hear there is a whole community out there of people just like you. They get it; you are not alone. You can be yourself there. You can be open about your sexuality. There are clubs and churches for people just like you. Finally, you decide, “Here I go!”

The sense of connection and camaraderie is huge and compelling. Consuming to the point of, “I finally belong to somebody,” which carries with it the fragrant power of being wanted. I fully understand and agree completely that the conclusion one must surrender and resign oneself to the gay identity and culture is all wrong, but I equally understand the forces and power of having arrived at such a conclusion.

The Apostle Paul has given us every reason for hope with regard to homosexuality in 1st Corinthians, Chapter 6, “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed…sanctified…justified…by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:11)

Many remain very vocal in their proclamation that God can do the impossible. Do we still believe that? Especially, when it comes to the brokenness of same-sex attraction? Is it any wonder the man or woman struggling with unwanted same-sex attraction is completely confused about the Christian viewpoint?

I, for one, refuse to lower the bar on the Biblical fact and reality that God continues to do what the world considers impossible. God continues to offer new life to all who are willing to receive it.

When Nehemiah was told that Jerusalem was in ruins, he was devastated. Ultimately, he went there, surveyed the damage to the city and wept over what he saw. He gathered allies around himself and said, “We have to rebuild.”

This is a time for all men and women with unwanted same-sex attraction to have allies. Someone they can talk to; a friend, counselor, pastor, a church – someone that will be with them. A compassionate individual that need not be an expert on the topic of homosexuality. The Church remains God’s instrument in helping those afflicted with same-sex attractions to become comfortable and sound in their true God-given roles.

We, the Church, have gotten too far off track regarding homosexuality. It’s time to rebuild. You and I have experienced the trials and difficulties of this world so that we will be qualified to help others.

“God who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in ‘any trouble’ with the comfort we ourselves have received from God.” (2 Corinthians 1:4)

I am completely convinced that God is asking His Church to change and rebuild our own walls by opening our hearts to the sexually broken. Those who struggle with same-sex attraction need to be loved, to be embraced in fellowship, and to be known for who they truly are, not based solely on their sexuality.

Change and the redemption road can often be unpleasant and difficult. However, it is a journey always worth taking. Homosexuals are being asked to change and rebuild the walls of their lives. How about we, The Church, rebuilding some of our own walls?

How we oppose homosexuality is as important as opposing it.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Greg Held, Station Manager, KERI 1410AM

Season 2, Episode 21
There is no doubt many Christians have been strongly influenced by the continuous parade of positive media representations of homosexuality. It does “seem” that people today increasingly approve of homosexuality as a valid life option for friends and family members. But is that truly the case?

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Homosexuality? Who Cares? – Download MP3 –

Not long ago, about fifteen minutes before the start of our Straight Talk Care Group/Class Meeting, I heard our office outer doors open and in stepped a couple (a Mom and Dad) I had never had the pleasure of meeting.

The Dad handed me a copy of the information about Straight Talk he had downloaded from our web site and asked, “Are we in the right place for this meeting?’ After I assured him he was, Mom’s eyes filled up and she said, “Our adult daughter just recently informed us she is in a same-sex relationship. We need guidance and support so we drove 5 hours to attend this meeting.”

Admittedly, I was stunned, and I am confident it showed. A one-way drive of 5 hours?

They, like so many others, were looking for encouragement, support, and answers to help them navigate the difficult waters that often surround one main question…

“How do we continue to show love to our gay-identified son/daughter and yet remain faithful to the Bible’s admonitions about homosexual practice?”

The necessary balance of both truth and grace can be a considerable challenge.

To be honest, yet loving; firm in our convictions and unsparing in our compassion and abundantly clear in our beliefs.

“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.” (John 1:14)

At one point in the meeting, another Mom shared with the couple, “When you’re hurting, fearful, and so deeply troubled, you will go to any lengths to find answers and support. Even a 5-hour drive, huh?”

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that homosexuality has taken center stage in our nation, churches, and homes.

We are in immediate, if not desperate need, of Biblical clarity in a sexually confused world.

As ambassadors of truth, your job, my job is to present truth lovingly, responsibly, and clearly. When we stand before God, I really do not see even one of us being asked how many homosexuals we were able to persuade out of the homosexual community.

But I am convinced we will be asked how faithfully we presented the words of life and light we’ve been given and how lovingly yet boldly we presented them.

In this extremely troubled age, may it be said of all of us – that we are, as He was, full of grace and truth.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Author Landon Schott

Season 2, Episode 12
Landon Schott, author of Gay Awareness: Discovering the Heart of the Father and the Mind of Christ on Sexuality joins Pastor Phillip Lee for a second His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast to discuss: Does that which tempts us define our identity as Christians? Is the answer to homosexuality – heterosexuality, or holiness? and God’s view of same-sex marriage.

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Defining Our Identity w Landon Schott pt2 – Download MP3 –

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