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“They were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage…but then it started to rain.” (Luke 17:27)

While homosexuality has become perhaps the most controversial social issue of our time, often resulting in a host of challenging, if not divisive questions, it is also an undeniable fact the homosexual community, through a masterful plan, has achieved monumental results in a very, very short period of time. There is no doubt homosexuality (an identity based on sexual preference) is a multi-dimensional phenomenon.

Today, the homosexual agenda continues its march from state to state and nation to nation. Education systems have become much more tolerant and sensitive to LGBT students with false pro-homosexual lessons being taught through health education curriculum. Religious institutions have and continue to revise the historic teachings on homosexual practice by caving to social trends in order to accommodate active homosexuals.

There is no question as to the media and movies having become pulpits relentlessly promoting homosexual practice often without question, challenge or debate. Compounding the crisis and continuing to fuel the phenomenon is the reluctance, if not total disregard by scientific organizations and churches, to allow any discussion about the causes and the resolving of unwanted same-sex attraction.

No doubt, the pinnacle of success for the homosexual community has been the legalization of same-sex marriage. The homosexual community which successfully and dramatically blurred the lines enough making “love” the ingredient, the quality, which has the power to validate anything that is done in its name.

The homosexual community, though a relatively small segment of society, has nevertheless become extremely significant and influential. And, so it seems, the achievements and the power of the politically organized and active homosexual community has it all.

But is this really the case?

“…sin is fun for a season.” (Hebrews 11:25)

Surfacing more and more by both men and women practicing homosexuality, largely influenced and generated by the accomplishments of the homosexual community, is a sense and questioning of true personal value, a true sense of being loved and accepted, and a sense (question) of living a meaningful life.

In other words…

“Those of us that proudly proclaim to be gay-identified and now have the legal right to pursue what we deem ‘natural,’ free from any and all forms of discrimination based on orientation and/or behavior, free to be, free to do, free to go, socially accepted, and free to practice a sexual preference in a social environment free from prejudicial treatment even by those who find such behavior completely unacceptable, even free from religious establishments…”

“Why aren’t all these freedoms freeing?”
“Why am I still so empty?”
“Why isn’t this working for me?”

“…He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)

Homosexuality, rather than being a divine gift that needs to be celebrated, is now being seen as anything but ‘gay’ by many.

And they will be turning to the Church in greater numbers.

Those making the decision to leave homosexual practice and the gay community will not just be abstaining from or abandoning sexual sin, they will be disconnecting from a whole network of support and an identity. Having made the right choice to say “No!” to homosexual practice, they will be arriving on our church doorsteps with absolutely nothing.

Will we, God’s people, celebrate the decision of the homosexual who has said “Yes” to God and “No” to homosexuality?

Will we, God’s people, be abundantly clear in affirming the biblical position that God loves all people, that homosexual practice is but one sin among many and that the Holy Spirit is available to transform all persons – including homosexual persons?

Will we, God’s people, minister to persons struggling with homosexuality, their families and all others affected by homosexuality as partners in Christ’s work of healing?

Will we, God’s people, integrate all persons striving to live as faithful disciples of Jesus Christ into full membership in the local church?

“Indeed, it is raining but not just on the homosexual.”

“In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.” (Acts 2:17)

All Christians are part of God’s overall plan for the redemption of the world. To say, “The Church is of God,” means that we are not part of some optional and respectable social club.

The Church is called by God “out of the world” in order to transform the world.

Each of us, then, is part of God’s plan.

“A much-needed later rain is needed.”

“Pastor, the homosexuals are coming, the homosexuals are coming!”

“Wonderful! They can have a seat next to the gossips, those having sex before marriage, the adulterers, the liars, those that drink excessively, the greedy…”

We, His Church, must stand for Jesus Christ and witness to His grace and power – to and for all people.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

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“I know where I am going because I know where I have been.”

Oh, how well I remember!

It was many, many years ago when I was on staff at Chester Avenue Baptist Church, (now, Chester Avenue Community Church), that friend and Senior Pastor, Pastor Keith Fultz, began to encourage me about sharing what God had done in my life.

My initial response was, “Get real!”

In terms of my past involvement with homosexuality, it was a dead, ugly, a “don’t want to talk about it” issue, that I did not want to revisit or certainly share publicly.

However, through my Pastors encouragement and a whole lot of prompting by the Holy Spirit, I finally came around and agreed to go public. And I mean public!

Ultimately, a Sunday morning service was selected for me to share my testimony. No advance announcement was given in terms of my sharing and certainly not what I would be disclosing.

To this day, I find it remarkable if not downright amusing that the sanctuary was packed. Wouldn’t you know it?

I remember very well saying to God – “Father, I know you have a sense of humor, but this is not funny!”

So, there I was for the very first-time spilling “it” in detail. Yes, you could have heard a pin drop.

I remember stating to my Pastor that if I was going to “tell all about it,” then I was going to “tell all.” Now, not the sordid, gory details – that never has any value.

After sharing my testimony, my pastor asked the congregation if they would be willing to come forward and pray for me. To my absolute delight and “Whew, it’s going to be ok,” the entire church began making their way to the altar where I was standing.

A sea of humanity was making its way to me. It really was as though they couldn’t get close enough. Frankly, I was overwhelmed.

There is something incredibly powerful and wonderful that God does when we are open and transparent about your shortcomings, when we expose the dark past and present our lives in an atmosphere of honesty and vulnerability.

It’s as though the light of truth is able to shine on those formerly dark and hidden places, and the power of God powerfully, dramatically, and significantly provides healing and wholeness in the twinkling of an eye.

Those sudden and totally unexpected visits of God when He provides all that you need and enables you to move well beyond what you thought was impossible.

He remains a God that says today – “Yep! Possible!”

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

Please consider making a donation at www.hiswayout.com/donate. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

“Gay” does not accurately define and depict life for many, possibly most, same-sex attracted men and women.

Initially, “happy, care-free, or lighthearted” defined ‘gay’ but ultimately became a widely accepted and adopted word referencing homosexuality, especially among homosexual men.

Speaking as one once a member of the gay community for 17 years, I can personally witness to the fact and reality that ‘gay’ offers a far more positive connotation than homosexual.

Today, especially, when one says, “I’m gay,” they are usually stating or meaning “I’m proud of my being same-sex attracted.”

How very different the use and reference of ‘gay’ is for many others. “Oh, that guy over there is gay,” or “He’s a gay man,” or “That was a gay pride parade,” coupled with distinct voice tone and body language indicates an individual that does not approve of homosexuality.

Today, with every closet under the sun having been completely emptied, a Christian man who still holds to the truth and authority of Scripture regarding homosexual practice but experiences homosexual temptations or inclinations may be much more inclined to refer to himself as ‘gay,’ indicating acceptance and approval of those leanings. Hence, “I am a gay Christian.”

Ultimately, then, the likelihood of him referring to himself as homosexual is slim, embracing and preferring the more positive, self-affirming term ‘gay.’

Just as the word ‘gay’ is conveniently and frequently tossed around and misused incorrectly, so it is with same-sex practice as a whole.

Many men, me included, awoke and realized that to call homosexuality gay equals an ultimate contradiction. Tragically and regrettably, we, me too, we did not know we had an option, an alternative.

During my 17 years living as a gay-identified man, I never once had a well-meaning Christian approach me and say, “You know, Phillip, there is another way.” I do not offer this fact as an indictment on the Christian Community but rather to illustrate how shameful and tragic not knowing I had an option.

To be clear, I am not referencing a doctrine, theology, not even a church, but a relationship with a living and loving Savior.

Today, there is no question that a goal of the gay liberation movement is to achieve a worldwide ban on counseling, which includes Biblical discipleship, for individuals with same-sex attraction claiming, “change is not possible” and to say that it is “too harmful.”

Too harmful?

The harm I witnessed in many lives and personally experienced as well, did not occur as a result of attempting to work through our unwanted issue of same-sex attraction but rather over and through our celebration of “gay.”

In my view, there continues to be relentless social pressure to protect “gays” from discrimination, but also from any form of disagreement, which from personal experience, is tragically promoting a dangerous philosophy.

I find this cause to be even more than intriguing since there is great diversity and disagreement in the gay community over fundamental basics such as “what it means to be gay or lesbian.”

The gay community is hardly a unified front as many would have us believe.

While I personally deplore any and all forms of “gay-bashing” and other hate crimes against homosexuals, the extreme medical risks and the fundamental psychological problems often associated with homosexual practice cannot be undermined or dismissed.

That said, today, whether homosexual or heterosexual, the relationship between sexual promiscuity and high-risk sexual behavior are joined at the hip. This is not judgment but rather a fact of life.

In America, very little is being offered which promotes the truth about homosexuality and the general public has slowly but certainly bought into the many untruths with regard to the topic of homosexuality. This did not happen by accident.

So much for an individual’s right of self-determination to address their unwanted homosexual feelings and behavior.

In America and around the world, in the name of tolerance, diversity, and equality, often the truth has and continues to be suppressed regarding homosexuality. We can and we must reverse the current trend through education, awareness, and understanding.

Yes, because of very real discrimination, homosexual activists created a brilliant strategic plan to gain across-the-board acceptance. Yet their plan was based on a flawed paradigm to persuade people they were born with same-gender attraction and that change is not possible.

It is an undeniable fact this strategy has worked, in spite of no scientific or Bible evidence to support the opinion, notion, or theory.

We as Christians have to be concerned – no, committed – under the imperatives of the Bible to minister and offer Biblical discipleship to men and women and their families impacted by unwanted same-sex attraction. Ultimately, your willingness and participation can make a difference in the lives and the eternal destinies of a multitude.

Jesus Christ preached the Gospel and showed compassion to the wounded, hurting and broken. That’s all of us, folks.

We, the Christian Community must respond by following His example.

Again, personally speaking, homosexual temptations are discovered, but declaring “I’m gay” is a choice.

We do not tell God what sacrifice is, He tells us.

All dedicated followers of Christ Jesus are called daily to die to the desires of the flesh. Galatians 2:20 says, “I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me.”

The Bible does not call us to a heterosexual or homosexual life, but to a holy life.

I pray you will know God intimately and reflect His holiness, that you will live a life that pleases Him and glorifies Him, and that you will live a life of holiness unto Him.

A life of holiness is progressive and lived one day at a time.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

Please consider making a donation at www.hiswayout.com/donate. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Equality? How is that defined and what does that look like?

What many people forget, some conveniently, with regard to homosexuality and gay rights, is that it is possible (from a Christian perspective) to disagree with homosexual practice or as some state, the gay lifestyle, and yet treat individuals with respect and dignity.

Since the Biblical and theological perspectives are correct which see and define homosexual practice as one of the myriad forms which human fallenness can take, then those practicing or engaged in such behavior deserve the truth and even more so deserve the offer of forgiveness, healing and restoration which is available by and through Christ Jesus.

Therefore, any and all responses to same-sex attracted men and women, and homosexuality itself, clothed in and offered in truth and compassion can never and will never be homophobic, bigoted or hateful.

Truth is and truth matters greatly to God.

Gay activists, in particular, are swift to point out that any disagreement with gay (identity, practice, rights, etc.) must be classified as “hate.”

Gay and lesbian activists often claim they are asking for nothing more than social justice and the guarantee of their civil rights – to be protected from oppression, anti-homosexual violence, housing and employment discrimination based upon their sexual orientation.

Is this truly the case?

Once again, bearing in mind to challenge or disagree in any way with “gay” = hate, (per many gay activists), what about when same-sex attracted men and women disagree within their own ranks and community with challenges and different beliefs and viewpoints regarding “gay?”

Within the gay community there is great diversity and disagreement regarding what it means to be gay or lesbian. Many do not appreciate or use the word gay, and many believe same-sex marriage is a joke.

One need only consider the fierce opposition that frequently arises within the homosexual community when any of its own dare to criticize various aspects of either the gay or lesbian lifestyle or their social and political endeavors.

The gay community is anything but a united front as some would have us believe. Therefore, when speaking of the “gay agenda,” it is important to recognize and acknowledge that there is by no means a unanimous agreement on all the details of that agenda.

Therefore, it seems to me when criticisms or challenges surface in their own camp and vehemently opposed, should not that be viewed and termed – hateful?

Personally-speaking, it is well known that the subject of homosexuality for me is both professional and personal.

Herein lies my concern. Many today are stating, “God’s standards just seem unfair – therefore, they must not really be God’s standards.”

When the moral question has been answered and upheld by individuals, families and churches, then, and only then, can we deal with the relationship between homosexual practice, society and the Church.

Equality?

Frankly, the welfare of individuals, society, and the Church as a whole, depends on our facing the subject of homosexuality honestly, compassionately, and courageously.

Yes, homosexuals have the right, as do others, to believe that homosexual behavior should be accepted as normal. However, they do not have the right to demand everyone else agree with them.

True love is loving in spite of our differences and treating each other with kindness and respect. This is what it means to live in a society in which freedom of speech, religion (and belief) is guaranteed.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

Please consider making a donation at www.hiswayout.com/donate. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

At the next Straight Talk, Sunday, March 1st @ 8:00am…

Two words! Just two words and your life is changed forever. Do you still remember when you heard those words? Was it at a family gathering? Holiday? Going for a walk? Was it by phone? Letter? Were you e-mailed?

No matter where you were or how you heard, those two words meant two things – Your life changed, and someone you loved was gay.

At His Way Out Ministries, we have found and continue to see and understand the wisdom of Ecclesiastes 4:9-10: “two can accomplish more than twice as much as one, for the results can be much better. If one falls, the other pulls him up; but if a man falls when he is alone, he is in trouble.”

There is much to be said for gathering together. At His Way Out Ministries, we do not presume to have all the answers, but we do understand the human struggle related to the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

We are here to listen, support, encourage and walk with you beyond…

“Why?” to, “What now, Lord?”

All “Straight Talk” sessions are age appropriate and open to Junior High and High School age young men and women.

All Straight Talk Class/Care Group meetings are held at Rock Harbor Church: 10904 Snow Rd, Bakersfield, CA 93314
https://rockharborchurch.net/

Pastor Phillip Lee RHT05

At a recent Straight Talk Care Group/Class Meeting, a couple (a Mom and Dad), I had never had the pleasure of meeting before attended for the first time.

The Dad handed me a copy of information about Straight Talk he had downloaded from our web site and asked, “Are we in the right place for this meeting?’

After I assured him, he was, Mom’s eyes filled up and she said, “Our adult daughter just recently informed us she is in a same-sex relationship. We need guidance and support, so we drove 5 hours to attend this meeting.”

Admittedly, I was stunned, and I am confident that it showed. A one-way drive of 5 hours?

They, like so many others, were looking for encouragement, support, and answers to help them navigate the difficult waters that often surround one main question…

“How do we continue to show love to our gay-identified son/daughter and yet remain faithful to the Bible’s admonitions about homosexual practice?”

The necessary balance of both truth and grace can be a considerable challenge.

To be honest yet loving; firm in our convictions and unsparing in our compassion and abundantly clear in our beliefs.

“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.” (John 1:14)

At one point in the meeting, another Mom shared with the couple, “When you’re hurting, fearful, and so deeply troubled, you will go to any lengths to find answers and support. Even a 5-hour drive, huh?”

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that homosexuality has taken center stage in our nation, churches, and homes.

We are in immediate, if not desperate need, of Biblical clarity in a sexually confused world.

As ambassadors of truth, your job, my job is to present truth lovingly, responsibly and clearly. When we stand before God, I really do not see even one of us being asked how many homosexuals we were able to persuade out of the homosexual community.

But I am convinced we will be asked how faithfully we presented the words of life and light we’ve been given and how lovingly yet boldly we presented them.

In this extremely troubled age, may it be said of all of us – that we are, as He was, full of grace and truth.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

Please consider making a donation at www.hiswayout.com/donate. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

In today’s relentless barrage of words, images, slogans, and ideas that assault us from all sides regarding homosexuality, some have settled for short, simple and emotion-laden, one-stop conclusions.

As a result, many are now caught in a crossfire and faced with answering a critically important question, one with eternal consequences.

Each individual must choose:

“Will I determine good and evil for myself, or will I uphold and stand on a Word outside myself – The Word from The One – beginning with His Word of creation to what will be His last Word of judgment upon each of our lives?”

There is no doubt, individually and collectively, we would do well by returning to the objective truth of the Bible. If people want to accept homosexual practice as God-appointed and approved, that is their option, but they do so against the indisputable clarity and teachings of the Bible.

Scripturally-speaking, homosexuality is never mentioned in Scripture in anything but negative terms with both Old and New Testament writings containing prohibitions against not only homosexual practice but sexual relations of all kinds outside of heterosexual marriage.

At its very best, pro-gay theology speculates and theorizes on what Scripture doesn’t say about homosexuality attempting to validate homosexual practice and is laid on a very, very shaky foundation indeed.

Genesis 1:27-28 and Genesis 2:18-24

“God created man in his own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it.”

“The Lord God said, “it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make a help meet for him.”…and Adam said, “This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Therefore, shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh.”

Clearly, we are created beings, created with a specific intent. God’s blueprint for human sexuality as found in Genesis Chapters 1 and 2, clearly establishes that from the beginning God had a divine intent for human sexuality with well-defined holy boundary lines to live within regarding sexual expression.

Of course, there are those that will object, question, and criticize the clarity of Scripture by challenging with…

Challenge: Genesis Chapters 1 and 2 are completely and totally irrelevant because nowhere in the Scriptural passages is there even a mention of homosexuality.

Response: Exactly.

God’s divine intent for human sexuality was from the beginning as it remains today.

God’s Word does not adapt to culture – it transcends it.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

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When it comes to homosexuality and the many related issues, is it possible we, the Church, have been and continue to be guilty of putting ‘a cause’ before The Cross?

If so, is it then possible we have abdicated our moral authority to speak to the issue of our time?

Clearly, the existence and high visibility of a movement with a clear agenda to promote the social acceptance of homosexuality (including bisexuality and transgendered peoples) is beyond debate. The motives and goals of a relatively small segment of our society have been and continues to be significant and influential.

In the words of the Apostle Paul, “All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, reproof, for correction, and for training.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) Homosexuality is, clearly, only one of the myriad types of behavior that are condemned in the Bible, and it is condemned for the same reason as the rest – it is in direct opposition to human well-being, and an affront to the character of God. Therefore, the condemnation of homosexual practice is the perfect expression of compassion, because it seeks to warn and rescue those caught in the snare of same-sex attraction.

God has given the responsibility of outreach and ministry to all of us. Personally, I believe in and have every confidence in the Church’s ability, through Christ, to win gay communities around the world to Christ. We are all in this work together through Him, fulfilling the Great Commission. (Matthew 28:19-20) That said, what is our focus and what are our motives?

Jesus and the writers of Scripture did not hesitate to condemn sin and immorality in whatever form they found it. They did so, for one reason: to liberate men and women from the grip of spiritual, psychological and behavioral bondage. And they refused to minimize or whitewash evil practice of any kind in order to bring as many as possible to the life-giving rule of God.

Should this not be our motive today and why we go to lift high the Name of Jesus and The Cross?

While I completely agree the concern for social justice, physical and psychological health, personal responsibility and the importance of family are all values in which we the Church should be concerned, is our greater and primary concern for all people, “Are they dead in sin or alive in Christ?”

If they’re dead in sin, it hardly matters what the sin is, they are dead in sin. The Cross and not ‘a cause’ must be the priority, for the homosexual – just as it must be for us all.

Our ultimate goal should not be to merely combat or bring a halt to the pro-gay movement or even to show that the biblical judgment against homosexuality is well-founded or to effect public policies – as important as all these points and matters are – we, Ambassadors for Christ, are to be instruments in the sovereign hand of God for the accomplishment of His redemptive purposes. Therefore, if we put ‘a cause’ before The Cross, we are seriously off course.

God’s passion should be our passion: “…that none should perish, but that all would have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)

As an extension of the Church, I pray we all remember to put The Cross before ‘a cause.’ By introducing people to Christ Jesus and pointing them to the life-giving power of The Cross, men and women will find the freedom He has been offering them all along.

Please pray that through the Holy Spirit the eyes of these precious souls will become open to the fullness of life that God offers all of us through His Cross – not a cause.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

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Today, the battle that rages, is not over just a person’s sexuality, but rather over which spirit will claim that person’s allegiance. There is no doubt, the cultural and political battle over homosexuality has become in many respects the defining moment for our society.

The more important aspect of this battle is not the political one; it is the one for the individual human soul.

Therefore, please, please, please be very aware and sensitive to the fact that “what” we say is monumentally important with “how” it is said being equally important.

The deceived do not know they are deceived.

“Love, and the unity it attests to, is the mark Christ gave to Christians to wear before the world. Only with this mark may the world know that Christians are indeed Christians, and that Jesus was sent by the Father.” – Francis Schaeffer

By speaking truth, you can impact and change the future for many.

Be a professing Christian who adheres to and applies the truths of Scripture to our world as never before.

When you and I became a Christian, we began a transformation process not just of what we disapprove, but also of how we disapprove.

The disapproval of any particular behavior including same-sex practice(s) does not particularly identify one as Christian.

Being a Christian is far more profound than changing and voicing what we disapprove of.

The Apostle Paul said, “I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the barbarians” (Romans 1:14).

There is no doubt Paul understood and lived his life as a debtor to “everyone” on the face of the earth because of the Gospel of Jesus.

Do we, as Ambassadors for Christ, realize that same debtedness to every unsaved soul which includes the vast, enormous and virtually untouched mission field called “the gay community?”

Yes, the Bible is clear that homosexual practice is against God’s pattern for humankind, which should be all the more reason to be the bearer of good tidings to those with unwanted same-gender attraction and not just announce that a certain lifestyle is sinful.

The homosexual, along with many other people, do not know love, yet it is love that they seek more than anything else, by and large.

If you and I can be vessels of God’s love, if we can be compelled by that love, that will get their attention, because it will be so starkly different from all of the counterfeit loves that they have experienced, that if there is a genuine desire in them for God, it will draw them to Christ.

The shedding of the false, “gay” identity will be a natural fruit of having discovered where love, true love truly lies.

Look beyond the “gay” or “lesbian” label to the whole person inside and share the transforming power of God’s love and forgiveness without compromising the truth.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

Please consider making a donation at www.hiswayout.com/donate. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Although originally presented and filmed in 2012, my concern and message now in 2026 remains the same…

“The Church remains God’s vehicle to reach wounded, broken, hurting humanity which includes the LGBTQ community.”

Jesus died in the past to forgive us in the future when we repent in the present.

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