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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 21
Any endeavor to make the Bible agree with homosexual practice, requires abandoning the truth of God. True love, love for God, is not about sexual preference – it is about Biblical obedience. Join Pastor Phillip Lee as he explores Counterfeit Sexuality.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Counterfeit Sexuality with Phillip Lee – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

My conversation with a reporter.

Reporter: I’m really surprised you continue to believe and state that men and women with same-sex attraction can change.

Me: Why does that surprise you?

Reporter: Well, you know, with so many having debunked Reparative Therapy and Conversion Therapy.

Me: I must challenge your use of the word “debunked.” While some men and women may not have benefited from Reparative or Conversion Therapy, both offer some very good, sound and solid counsel for life. So, let’s not, as the saying goes, “Throw the baby out with the bath water.”

That said, during our 25-year history of His Way Out Ministries, we have never applied or utilized Reparative or Conversion Therapy. Being a Christian ministry, our calling, mandate and approach is taken directly from the command and calling of our Lord Jesus Christ to make disciples as found in Matthew 28:19.

You do understand Biblical Discipleship is by no means the same as Reparative or Conversion Therapy, don’t you?

Reporter: Huh?

Me: Reparative and/or Conversion Therapy is a psychological, clinical approach to resolving same-sex attraction. At His Way Out Ministries, our position and approach rests entirely upon the Authority of Scripture versus the interpretations of some of the social sciences and medicines. All His Way Out Ministries Services are centered on the Biblical foundations of compassion, integrity, and dependence on God.

Reporter: Oh, pray the gay away.

Me: I would caution you not to mock God or the power of prayer.

We believe through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and the healing power of the Holy Spirit, often mediated by extended and competent ministry, prayer and a caring Christian community, the sexually broken can experience transformation and restoration towards wholeness.

And, by the way, it is our intent to extend compassionate Christian ministry for such persons while repudiating any non-loving, prejudicial attitudes that deny Christ’s unconditional love for all people and we declare such to be sin.

Reporter: Wow, I had no idea.

Me: Do you have a Bible?

Reporter: Yes.

Me: With regard to “change,” I recommend you read Mark 10:27 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. “Change” is not just our personal opinion or feeling. God Himself says “change” is possible.

Reporter: Hmmmm

Me: So, if you still want to disagree or argue about “change” being possible, I suggest you take it up with God. Indeed, you can argue the point with Him but you won’t win.

Reporter: Thank you for your time.

Me: Anytime.

First and foremost, let’s put even this crisis in it’s proper context. Embrace the promise of Romans 8:28 that God makes everything – even calamities – work for our good. Admittedly, it is often very excruciating to wait for the ‘good’ to work. I mean, when it seems that everything is literally coming apart at the seams, it’s hard to consider if anything good will really come out of misery.

• My first encouragement is learn as much as you can about the causes of homosexuality. Simply knowing it is wrong is not even close to being enough.

• Don’t run the matter into the ground every time you see your son or daughter. Often, there can be a good reason(s) for not dealing with a problem right now.

• Do everything you can to keep the lines of communication open and maintain your relationship. If you feel you have been batting your head against the wall seeking resolution of ‘the problem,’ take a rest. It may not be God’s time to deal with the issue.

• Make sure your son or daughter is aware of your belief and position regarding homosexual practice. Heaven knows, God can deal with and use our mistakes but He cannot deal with our inaction. Be clear and precise.

• Do not argue about homosexuality. The very moment the conversation erupts into anger – drop it! Badgering will only produce pushing the individual the wrong direction. Many problems and issues in life are often solved very indirectly; not when we are consciously dealing with them, but when we are going about our normal lives.

• It is imperative to distinguish between “acceptance and approval.” It is important to separate, both in our own minds and to our loved ones, their individual worth from the acts of homosexuality they may be committing.

• Stay completely away from Christian cliches such as: “God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve,” and “Love the sinner but hate the sin.” Christian cliches only reinforce the belief of many with same-sex attraction that the Christian community is unwilling to truly educate themselves on the complexities of same-sex attraction.

• Do not hesitate to admit when and where the Church has been wrong with regard to men and women with same-sex attraction. We, the Church, have made mistakes and in some cases owe the gay community an apology.

• Refrain from attacking the character of homosexuals when discussing homosexuality. Keep to the real issue: “The real issue is whether or not homosexual practice is, in and of itself, moral.”

• Do not be discouraged if your conversations do not produce instant fruit. What we will answer to God for is speaking truth lovingly and plainly – not for how our loved one responds.

• Be relentless in looking for every opportunity to share it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and the indwelling presence of His Spirit which is the foundation needed to overcome same-sex attraction.

• Release control. Let God decide how to bring freedom. God is the only One who can bring about change in the homosexual.

• Let the son, daughter and everyone know that God has a reputation of transforming trapped people with damaged sexualities. “And such were some of you” applies to all Christians who had formerly participated in homosexuality. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

• And, remember, those entangled in sin, of course, will have weak faith, so be merciful to those who doubt. (Jude 22)

Somewhere I read, “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.” When Jesus Christ is “there,” life has infinite possibilities.

Pastor Phillip Lee

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 20
Pastor Brandon Holthaus, Senior Pastor of Rock Harbor Church in Bakersfield, California joins Pastor Phillip Lee for part two of their discussion focusing on the question: When a Christian upholds the Lordship of Christ and the Authority of Scripture regarding homosexuality, isn’t that “protecting God’s character and the authority of His Word?”

Listen online or download the podcast.

Moving Toward the Goal with Brandon Holthaus pt2 – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.” (Isaiah 5:20)

Today, especially in America, little is being offered which promotes the truth about homosexuality with the general public and the Church believing the many untruths and inaccuracies being offered. This did not happen by accident. This has been and continues to be a well-crafted strategic plan.

Phase One: Get society and the Church to ‘accept’ the falsehood that someone can be a gay Christian (it’s ok to practice homosexuality) which will then set the stage for the transition to Phase Two.

Phase Two: Revise Scripture to endorse and validate the homosexual disposition and agenda.

Hence, pro-gay theology: “the abandonment of Scriptural truth; scientific information, social changes, and personal experience become the cornerstone of how ‘truth’ is determined.”

For homosexual practice to be seen as acceptable and created by God, historic and traditional Christian teaching had to be discredited.

Phase Three: Since it’s ok to be a gay Christian (according to pro-gay theology), then God Himself supports, approves and validates homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

Herein lies the true problem (crisis). No where in the Bible does any Scripture, not one, approve of or support the notion or concept of gay Christian or same-sex relationships. Every time Scripture mentions homosexual practice it is always, without exception, mentioned in the context of a behavior in which no man or woman is to practice – not unlike many other behaviors.

The Church cannot ‘welcome and affirm’ what God Himself never affirms. Yes, Jesus welcomed and loved every person but He never, ever affirmed their sin – not once.

That said, permit me to take this another direction for a moment.

It is long overdue for many, including homosexual strugglers, to stop singling out homosexuality as the worst of all sins.

Today, many view the person engaged in homosexual acts to be unsaved. Why are not the same assumptions made, at least with the same rigor and emphasis, regarding other sins such as: fornication (pre-marital sex), idolatry, adultery, thievery, covetousness, alcoholism, slander, and deceit. An end must come to declaring those guilty of pre-marital sex as just, well, “disobedient Christians,” while declaring homosexuals definitely non-Christians.

As Christians, our relationship with God through Christ is the cornerstone of our identity.

Today, many are being told, “Accept yourself and follow your heart.”
However, Jesus says, “Deny yourself and follow Me.”

“By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, ‘I have come to know Him,’ and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him; the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.” (1 John 2:3-6)

The ‘gay Christian’ identity does not exist in the Kingdom of God.

“Concerns About the Revoice Conference” is a must view and listen by friend and ministry partner, Dr. Michael Brown. Dr. Brown offers and puts in crystal clarity where we are today with regard to “Gay Christian?, Pro-Gay Theology, etc.”

The video is a must watch for anyone and everyone concerned about the many misguided attempts to revise sexual morality.

Concerns About the Revoice Conference

Direct YouTube Link

Bringing Hope in the End Times
November 7-11, 2018
Caribbean Magic Resort
21 La Solita Road
Kelly Village, Trinidad & Tobago
Speakers
Bishop Don Hamilton
Attorney Rebecca Ali Gouveia
Pastor Phillip Lee
Rev. Kenneth Ragoonath

Additional information and registration at
www.hcftnt.org
or contact Hospital Christian Fellowship
1-868-489-5724 / 1-868-652-3410

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 19
Pastor Brandon Holthaus, Senior Pastor of Rock Harbor Church in Bakersfield, California joins Pastor Phillip Lee to discuss the questions: Can those who are struggling with same-sex desires truly profess to be Christian? What about those who are practicing gays or lesbians yet proclaim Christ? Did God really make some straight and some gay? What exactly does it mean for any of us to proclaim, “I am a Christian”?

Listen online or download the podcast.

Moving Toward the Goal with Brandon Holthaus pt1 – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 18
Join Pastor Phillip Lee for part two of his conversation with Janet Boynes, Founder and CEO of Janet Boynes Ministries in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Janet shares the testimony of her personal journey out of lesbianism and how important it was that she found herself in a church that loved her through the process of healing and transformation.

Janet Boynes Ministries is guided by the ministry principles of, 1) teaching compassion without compromise, 2) remaining bold and strategic in the face of adversity, 3) staying true to the will of God, and 4) fulfilling the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Only One Master with Janet Boynes pt2 – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 17
Pastor Phillip Lee welcomes Janet Boynes, Founder and CEO of Janet Boynes Ministries in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Janet shares the testimony of her personal journey out of lesbianism and how important it was that she found herself in a church that loved her through the process of healing and transformation.

Janet Boynes Ministries is guided by the ministry principles of, 1) teaching compassion without compromise, 2) remaining bold and strategic in the face of adversity, 3) staying true to the will of God, and 4) fulfilling the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Only One Master with Janet Boynes pt1 – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

On Sunday, July 1, 2018, Pastor Brandon Holthaus, Senior Pastor at Rock Harbor Church in Bakersfield, California, interviewed Pastor Phillip Lee with His Way Out Ministries during the Sunday morning worship service.

Listen online or download so you can listen later.

Rock Harbor Church Interview On The State Of The LGBT Movement – Download MP3 –

Also available for listening at Rock Harbor Church
rockharborchurch.net/pastor-phillip-lee-interview-on-the-state-of-the-lgbt-movement/

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