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“They were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage…but then it started to rain.” (Luke 17:27)

While homosexuality has become perhaps the most controversial social issue of our time, often resulting in a host of challenging, if not divisive questions, it is also an undeniable fact the homosexual community, through a masterful plan, has achieved monumental results in a very, very short period of time. There is no doubt that homosexuality (an identity based on sexual preference) is a multi-dimensional phenomenon.

Today, the homosexual agenda continues its march from state to state and nation to nation. Education systems have become much more tolerant and sensitive to LGBT students with false pro-homosexual lessons being taught through health education curriculum. Religious institutions have and continue to revise the historic teachings on homosexual practice by caving to social trends in order to accommodate active homosexuals. There is no question as to the media and movies having become pulpits relentlessly promoting homosexual practice often without question, challenge or debate. Compounding the crisis and continuing to fuel the phenomenon is the reluctance, if not total disregard by scientific organizations and churches, to allow any discussion about the causes and the resolving of unwanted same-sex attraction.

No doubt, the pinnacle of success for the homosexual community has been the legalization of same-sex marriage. The homosexual community successfully and dramatically blurred the lines enough making “love” the ingredient, the quality which has the power to validate anything that is done in its name.

The homosexual community, though a relatively small segment of society, has nevertheless become extremely significant and influential. And, so it seems, the achievements and the power of the politically organized and active homosexual community has it all.

But is this really the case?

“…sin is fun for a season.” (Hebrews 11:25)

Beginning to surface more and more by both men and women practicing homosexuality, largely influenced and generated by the accomplishments of the homosexual community, is a sense and questioning of true personal value, a true sense of being loved and accepted, and a sense (question) of living a meaningful life. In other words…

“Those of us that proudly proclaim to be gay-identified and now have the legal right to pursue what we deem ‘natural,’ free from any and all forms of discrimination based on orientation and/or behavior, free to be, free to do, free to go, socially accepted, and free to practice a sexual preference in a social environment free from prejudicial treatment even by those who find such behavior completely unacceptable, even free from religious establishments…”

“Why aren’t all these freedoms freeing?”
“Why am I still so empty?”
“Why isn’t this working for me?”

“…He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)

Homosexuality, rather than being a divine gift that needs to be celebrated, is now being seen as anything but ‘gay’ by many.

And, they will be turning to the Church in greater numbers.

Those making the decision to leave homosexual practice and the gay community will not just be abstaining from or abandoning sexual sin, they will be disconnecting from a whole network of support and an identity. Having made the right choice to say “No!” to homosexual practice, they will be arriving on our church doorsteps with absolutely nothing.

Will we, God’s people, celebrate the decision of the homosexual who has said “Yes” to God and “No” to homosexuality?

Will we, God’s people, be abundantly clear in affirming the biblical position that God loves all people, that homosexual practice is but one sin among many and that the Holy Spirit is available to transform all persons – including homosexual persons?

Will we, God’s people, minister to persons struggling with homosexuality, their families, and all others affected by homosexuality as partners in Christ’s work of healing?

Will we, God’s people, integrate all persons striving to live as faithful disciples of Jesus Christ into full membership in the local church?

“Indeed, it is raining but not just on the homosexual.”

“In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.” (Acts 2:17)

All Christians are part of God’s overall plan for the redemption of the world. To say, “The Church is of God,” means that we are not part of some optional and respectable social club.

The Church is called by God “out of the world” in order to transform the world.

Each of us, then, is part of God’s plan.

“A much-needed later rain has begun.”

“Pastor, the homosexuals are coming, the homosexuals are coming!”

“Wonderful! They can have a seat next to the gossips, those having sex before marriage, the adulterers, the liars, those that drink excessively, the greedy…”

We, His Church, must stand for Jesus Christ and witness to His grace and power – to and for all people.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Joe Dallas

Season 5, Episode 21
Special Guest: Joe Dallas, ordained pastoral counselor, speaker, and author of numerous books including Speaking of Homosexuality, The Gay Gospel, When Homosexuality Hits Home, and The Complete Christian Guide to Understanding Homosexuality.

Joe begins our broadcast by sharing his story of how same-sex attraction impacted his life and what ultimately caused him to surrender to the Lordship of Christ. We ultimately turn our attention to and discuss: Can Homosexuals Really Change, What is Pro-Gay Theology, What is the Real Crisis We Face Today, Truth and Grace, The Gay Christian, and When Homosexuality Hits Home.

HWOM Podcast with Joe Dallas pt1
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“HIV infection is up 132.5 percent among young gay men. And we have no one to blame but ourselves.” The Advocate, which proclaims itself the leading authority for up-to-date LGBT news, offered an article titled “7 Ways the Gay Community Is Failing Our Youth on HIV” on August 12, 2015.

When it comes to the subjects of homosexuality and HIV/AIDS, I withdrew from endeavoring to be both politically correct and “church correct” many, many years ago. For far too many youths today, morality has become purely a matter of personal taste. Regarding sexual expression, opinions vary on how best to attain fulfillment, and in the thinking of many people, these differences are nothing more than opinions. From this perspective, regardless of one’s personal view or opinion on sexual expression, sex outside of marriage between one man and one woman or remaining celibate as a single man or woman, has been reduced to a matter of personal preference or expression.

Today, one youth’s promiscuity is another youth’s monogamy when it comes to homosexual practice. That said, in all fairness, the same could be said for heterosexuals as well. But in either case, the facts are undeniably true there is a demonstrable relationship between promiscuity and high-risk sexual behavior. They are synonymous.

As a resident of San Francisco and member of the gay community in 1980, I personally witnessed the tragedy of HIV/AIDS unfold with some of my dearest and closest friends being the first to pass away from the disease. As a Christian, I believe in the sanctity of life. All life is sacred and deserves to be celebrated. I am confident my stating I am a Christian has probably struck a nerve given the odds at which the gay community and the Christian community frequently find themselves.

“I’m so troubled and confused. There are so many mixed messages being generated about homosexuality,” are frequent statements offered by youth. To compound the crisis, youth today are hearing virtually nothing about the ongoing AIDS crisis. Many of the youth are Christians, each having been raised in Church and reared in a Christian home. Therefore, once again, we find “the elephant in the home and in the sanctuary” that very, very few will discuss leaving them vulnerable and unaware of the very real and present danger.

It is the muted nature of discussions on HIV/AIDS that has led to a false belief that HIV is the problem of other people. Please hear me clearly. HIV/AIDS does not care if you are rich or poor, American or African, young or old and HIV/AIDS does not care if you are a Christian or not. One wrong move and your life will be changed forever. There is great, great reward in living our lives within God’s holy boundary lines.

Youth need to be clearly discipled in the truth and reality that God has given each and every one of us free will choice. Without free will choice, there is no such thing as true, pure, undefiled love. However, present realities dictate with regard to HIV/AIDS that when we exercise our free-will choice, we do not get to choose the consequence that may come our way as a result of our bad choice.

These are perilous times for youth when it comes to the topic of homosexuality and sexual expression. Therefore, in the name of decency, true compassion, and humanity, every church without exception should have a very frank discussion about sexual promiscuity and HIV/AIDS.

Why would anyone encourage or promote a behavior (any behavior) which has all probability of dramatically shortening or taking one’s life? Would someone please explain this to me?

And, for the sake of clarification, the silent-mode treatment with regard to sexual promiscuity and HIV/AIDS results in many youths not knowing about the health risks, which is why they aren’t concerned with contracting HIV/AIDS.

I remain grieved and concerned that American culture remains in the very tight grip of political correctness and “church correctness” when any expression of concern or disagreement with any aspect of the homosexual movement, or with homosexuality itself is expressed.

I have said before, but it seems appropriate to offer once again the statement “there was a time when the Church set societal standards.” It is time, and long overdue, that we took the role and the God-given mandate by God Himself back.

Reaching youth is something we all can do and must do to help searching youth understand God’s abundant plans for their lives and to counteract any agenda that desires to ruin all hope for the youth.

To speak the truth in love to a youth is not to condemn the one to whom it is spoken. Not once did Jesus ever shrink back from speaking hard, sometimes stinging words of warning to those whom He undoubtedly loved.

May we, individually and collectively, have the courage and compassion of our perfect role model, Jesus Christ.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

Please consider making a donation at www.hiswayout.com/donate. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Joel Splawn

Season 5, Episode 5
Pastor Phillip Lee and special guest Pastor Joel Splawn, Senior Pastor, Kern Christian Church, Lake Isabella, CA.

Is there any allowance in Scripture for homosexual practice? If I disagree with homosexual practice does that make me a bigot, hateful, or homophobic? Is change possible for the homosexual? How should a pastor lead his congregation to effectively love homosexuals? There was a time when objective moral truth was acknowledged in America as something that could be found in, and drawn from the Bible.

Pastor Joel also shares in great detail his own battle with same-sex attraction and how powerfully God moved in his life enabling him to be an overcomer.

Listen online or download the podcast.

In Truth and Love with Joel Splawn pt2
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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

Supreme Court decision or not, same-sex marriage remains an experiment. By redefining marriage, America has now fully embarked on what can only be labeled as a radical social experiment.

Ultimately, it is not about whether or not gays and lesbians are nice people or good citizens. Frankly, some are and some aren’t, just like heterosexuals. It is not about whether gays and lesbians can be good, nurturing, loving parents. It is not even about whether or not gays and lesbians should be treated with respect and dignity. Every person deserves to be treated with respect and dignity.

Today, a popular error that has been made and continues to be made by many, is the attempt to blur the lines with regard to Christian ethics making “love” an omnipotent spiritual quality that has the power to validate anything that is done in its name. Under this particular line of thinking, one could justify any type of relationship, including those considered unacceptable and incompatible with Christian teaching and conduct.

Is the perceived or even real presence of love the criterion for all relationships? Indeed, God is love – absolutely. But true love has boundaries that protect, guide, and show concern for its recipients. Ultimately, showing support for, and more importantly, standing upon The Authority of Scripture for marriage between one man and one woman is not intolerant. If so, then nature itself would be intolerant. Marriage was established by God Himself and as a result, cannot be redefined by each new generation.

Within the same-sex marriage experiment, lesbian mothers are saying that a father is irrelevant to parenting; homosexual fathers say that a mother is irrelevant to parenting. But God says both a mother and a father are relevant to parenting.

Is anyone truly serious in suggesting that two men can take the place of a mother’s love, or two women can equal a dad?

Today, especially in America, the words intolerant and discrimination are powerful words and often used to squash any opinion about moral behavior. In fact, not only is the demand today to keep our opinions to ourselves as to what people do, the equal demand is to affirm a long list of various lifestyles no matter how questionable or experimental.

Compassion, communication, and care must be exercised with regard to the same-sex marriage experiment. The enormous problem in American society is the frequent usage of our experience as a basis to interpret reality. Far too many think, I’m having this experience and enjoying it, so God Himself in particular and society as a whole had better jump on board, get used to it, and fit in around with what I’m doing.

Do we as a society really have the right to redefine marriage so it is elastic enough to include any grouping of adults?

In the face of what is arguably one of the most damaging social experiments to ever be attempted in this country, the notion of a family with a father, mother, and children, all living under the same roof, appears to be becoming a relic of a bygone era, at least in some quarters.

Gay marriage advocates will tell you that what children really need is two loving adults in their lives and that the sex of those adults doesn’t matter the assumption being that mothers and fathers are interchangeable and optional. Our ultimate preference should always be a family comprised of one father and one mother. We must not wrest children from the God-given format of family relationship without considering the possibilities of serious consequences.

Admittedly, a society, a compassionate society should always come to the aid of motherless and fatherless families. That said, a compassionate society should never, ever, intentionally create motherless and fatherless families. And that’s exactly what the experiment of same-sex marriage does.

Herein lies my ongoing concern with regard to homosexual practice.

With everything that has transpired and everything that continues to unfold, most Christians still learn more about homosexuality from movies, the internet, and television than they learn in their own congregations. Often, hanging in the balance, are many who struggle with same-sex attraction and remain torn by the ongoing rhetoric and debate while yearning to hear the redemptive truth of the Bible.

The majority of the Church remains uneducated and unprepared for the increase of brokenness that same-sex marriage will produce. By not offering a Biblical response to homosexuality and extending competent ministry to those with unwanted same-sex attraction, a message of there is no problem with that issue in the church, and consequently, there is no help to be had for the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Admittedly, I do not presume to have all the answers but there is much we know about the causes of same-sex attraction and we also know from Scripture that God has, is, and will continue to set men and women free from the snare of same-sex attraction which is clearly presented to us in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, …and this is what some of you were.

The promises of God are true and unfailingly fruit-bearing if we extend them.

We, The Church, must offer the right blend of information, practical steps, and Biblical guidelines regarding homosexuality so that each and every church can become a launchpad for vital ministry. God, in His mercy, is once again giving His people the opportunity to prepare to offer a Christ-like response to homosexuality.

We, The Church, must become much more relevant to a rapidly changing world.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Joel Splawn

Season 5, Episode 4
Pastor Phillip Lee and special guest Pastor Joel Splawn, Senior Pastor, Kern Christian Church, Lake Isabella, CA.

Is there any allowance in Scripture for homosexual practice? If I disagree with homosexual practice does that make me a bigot, hateful, or homophobic? Is change possible for the homosexual? How should a pastor lead his congregation to effectively love homosexuals? There was a time when objective moral truth was acknowledged in America as something that could be found in, and drawn from the Bible.

Pastor Joel also shares in great detail his own battle with same-sex attraction and how powerfully God moved in his life enabling him to be an overcomer.

Listen online or download the podcast.

In Truth and Love with Joel Splawn pt1
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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

Pastor Phillip Lee RHT05Homosexuality always seems to be a problem someone else will face until it comes knocking on your personal front door. When it does, the pain is excruciating…especially, for parents. How well I remember, to this day, when I told my mother I was homosexual. She hit the kitchen floor – literally.

It is an undeniable fact that grief changes us. We all come out of various tragedies as different people than we were before. We can come out stronger and hopefully much more understanding of the problems of others, or we can come out very cynical.

For Christian parents, in particular, wading through the tsunami of emotions that accompany the announcement of, “Mom, Dad, I’m gay!” are all but encircled in, “Where do we go from here?”

Mom, Dad, first and foremost remember that you are a child of God, and He has plans to “prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.” He has promised to be with you always, no matter what kind of calamity or mud pit you find yourself in. That said, at first, it is hard to believe His promise(s).

Give yourself permission to wade through the myriad of real and genuine emotions. Today, with so much of society and the church being dysfunctional, it is often no small task working to be comfortable with owning our feelings. Tragically, some Christian parents with gay-identified children have been told, “Don’t cry,” or, “You shouldn’t feel that way.” Good grief. Where do we get this stuff?

It is in God’s waiting room that reality is faced with the knowledge that in some respects life just may never be quite the same again. The challenge? To look through the eyes of faith which enables the acceptance of the present reality and ultimately produces, “What now, Lord?” rather than, “Why?” In other words, hold on to God’s promises.

Indeed, loving a wayward child the way God loves them means loving them unconditionally. It also means accepting the truth and reality that only God can bring about the change in them you hope and pray to witness. It wasn’t until many years down the road of a new life in Christ Jesus that my mother shared with me…”You don’t know how many times in prayer I got in the enemy’s face and said ‘I don’t care what he has done or even how many times he has done it, in Jesus’ Name, devil, you can’t have him anymore!'” Watch out for the prayers of Mama.

Choose today to “act” rather than “react” to the unwanted circumstance that has come into your life. In doing so, God’s waiting room door will become open for you to share your problem, your legitimate concern, with a few who can encourage you spiritually. They may not know a lot about homosexuality. They may not have ever experienced this kind of thing themselves, but if they are compassionate people, they can give you a great deal of emotional support and nurturing.

Right now, you need and deserve all the help you can get. Your son or daughter will do his or her own thing until they come back to their senses. Letting go or praying a prayer of relinquishment for your child into Jesus’ Hands is the absolute hardest part. Remember the values you have built into your child. Love your child enough to put him or her fully in God’s hands while remembering you have a life also.

And, remember, while in God’s waiting room, because Jesus is there with you, life has any and all infinite possibilities.

The storms of life will undoubtedly do everything they possibly can to rip apart the hope we have in Christ Jesus. However, God’s amazing grace is always there for each and every one of us to draw upon when we remember to do so.

Today, we each have our own personalized waiting room. As we seek and wait upon Him with all our hearts, the circumstances in life just don’t have a chance. Ultimately, behind each circumstance, each question, and each answer stands the only One who can really help any of us. Truly, God only knows.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Joel Splawn

Season 5, Episode 3
Pastor Phillip Lee and special guest Pastor Joel Splawn, Senior Pastor, Kern Christian Church, Lake Isabella, CA.

Pastor Joel speaks to the brokenness of same-sex attraction from a personal perspective having been raised in a Christian family environment and church. We also discuss: Is there any allowance in Scripture for homosexual practice? Is change possible for the homosexual? If we disagree with homosexual practice does that make us hateful, a bigot, and homophobic?

Listen online or download the podcast.

Are Christians Exempt with Joel Splawn
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Line By Line: A Biblical Analysis of Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones by Wayne Blakely

In 2018 the North American Division of Seventh-day Adventist’s Commission on Human Sexuality published Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones. In July of 2018, it was handed out to 7,000 educators at the Adventist teachers convention in Chicago. Additionally, it was mailed to thousands of Adventist pastors and Adventist leaders.

The “guide” drew the attention of many students of scripture. What is God’s commission to you and me? Line by Line: A Biblical Analysis of Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones, seeks to redirect believers to Christ’s methods. Do you identify by your “feelings,” or by who Christ says you are? LGBT+ identified people hold the value and recognition of Christ, equal to every other human being. What are you willing to do for Jesus? Read how God’s hand of mercy has extended well beyond Adventism to all who will respond to His still small voice. Their testimonies will touch your hearts.

Line By Line: A Biblical Analysis of Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones is available from Know His Love Ministries at knowhislove.org/line-by-line.

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Author Landon Schott

Season 2, Episode 12
Landon Schott, author of Gay Awareness: Discovering the Heart of the Father and the Mind of Christ on Sexuality joins Pastor Phillip Lee for a second His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast to discuss: Does that which tempts us define our identity as Christians? Is the answer to homosexuality – heterosexuality, or holiness? and God’s view of same-sex marriage.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Defining Our Identity w Landon Schott pt2 – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

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