His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 1, Episode 4
Our fourth broadcast is titled “Youth and Homosexuality.” Christian youth often find themselves caught in the middle. Do they hold to the instructions of Scripture, church, and parents or do they reject their faith convictions as outdated and accept a new morality?

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His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 1, Episode 3
Our third broadcast is titled “Silence Is Not An Option.” It is the clarity of the Holy Scriptures that should compel each and every faithful follower of Christ Jesus to be a light where there is darkness, rather than hiding our witness from those who need it.

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His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 1, Episode 2
Our second broadcast is titled “The Myths of Homosexuality” which covers questions like: Is homosexuality the worst of all sins; is homosexuality nothing more than just a choice; is homosexuality genetic; will marriage or dating fix the problem of same-sex attraction; and does tolerance mean approving of however anyone lives?

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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

Fear, doubt, anger, rage – America is in serious trouble. If Americans, American Christians in particular, do not enable and create change, one of our best chances to put America and the Church in America in order will be lost. The extreme division(s) in our nation and the Church are making it extremely and increasingly incapable of resolving problems.

Ultimately, souls hang in the balance.

In America and in a world that remains starved for heroes and leaders, in a world that remains saturated by debates and opinion polls, I remain comforted in knowing the Bible continues to point beyond “us” to the person and work of Jesus Christ.

Today, the ultimate and obvious question remains not “What is the answer?” It is “Who is the answer?”

How is it that many American Christians consider sharing the Gospel as an optional extra? For the sake of clarity, by sharing the Gospel I am referring to something much more than a post on Facebook. And, for further clarification, sharing the Gospel is not to proclaim or advance the claims of a church, of a nation, of an ideology, but of Jesus Himself.

How is it possible to acknowledge Jesus as Lord if we take no notice of what He has told us to do? Christians, all Christians, are to “declare the wonderful deeds of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. Once you were no people but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy but now you have received mercy.” (1 Peter 2:9-10)

America and the Church are now facing a challenge, if not a test, which questions our ability and resilience to stand against internal and external forces which threaten to further divide and pull apart. On a much, much deeper level, it comes down to every Christian (a faithful follower of all the teachings of Christ Jesus) willing to make hard choices?

A word to the wise, do not ever make this statement to this pastor: “But I don’t have time.” Christian, when something, or more specifically, someone, is truly important to us, we find a way. In today’s world, we cannot afford to sit back and hope that the relatively few full-time ministers of the Word accomplish the task alone. The fulfillment of Christ’s great command to “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature” (Mark 16:15) is the shared responsibility of every individual who calls Christ Savior and Lord.

As a history student, I am recalling that during the Depression people clearly understood the serious choices before them: pull your hair out and jump out of a window, as some stockbrokers did after the crash in 1929, or unite and work together to see things changed, restored, and improved.

Change, true change in America and the Church will take place when we surrender to a unifying sense of a clear enemy. To neglect or dismiss the existence of the anti-God force the Bible calls Satan, the devil, Beelzebub, and the prince of this world, is to make allowance for evil to advance and thrive. There is a devil and he is out to spoil and mar God’s world in every way he can.

Call me a dreamer but I continue to believe in the greatness of America and the power and influence of God’s vehicle to reach wounded, broken, hurting humanity – the Church. That said, I remain a realist knowing if people remain unwilling to break with the habits of the past, rethink the future, and act anew, we will no doubt witness further divide and fall.

A mission, any mission for Christ Jesus involves unity. It would be a very, very wonderful thing for the world to see that what unites the Christian community is so much greater than what divides us.

The question I pose is not meant to be blunt or insensitive.

Are you a Christian?

If your answer is “Yes!” please do not be selfish with the Gospel.

The Apostle Paul said to the Corinthians, “If our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the likeness of God.” (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

Clearly, those who do not know Christ are perishing. They have not perished yet, but they are on their way. Men, women, and children are perishing, captive, and blind to both their predicament and to the Good News of Jesus Christ. Ultimately, this is all about people. Men and women are lost without Jesus Christ.

Psalm 16:11 says, “In thy presence, there is fullness of joy, in thy right hand are pleasures forevermore.” Indeed, these are difficult and challenging times. However, there is no joy on earth to compare with that of leading an individual to Christ.

Jesus said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through me.” (John 14:6)

Today, the change many hope and pray for in our world today will only come about through our willingness to pay the price for it. It will require each and every one of us leaving the safety and comfort of church. Yes, our obedience to and for the Gospel will bring us into conflict with the principalities and powers of this world. However, if we are truly going to be bearers of the Good News, we must always be sensitive and kind to others, even though we might disagree with them.

Conflicts are absolutely an inevitable part of life. How we handle and resolve them will demonstrate the extent to which we understand the richness of the Gospel and God’s reconciling love.

You and I are not here at this time by chance. God has brought each of us here for a purpose. I hope and I pray God the Father will challenge and inspire each of us to be a more faithful and effective witness to Jesus Christ in the midst of a world that does not know Him.

“Not by might nor by power, but by my spirit, says the Lord Almighty.” (Zechariah 4:6)

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 1, Episode 1
For many years, the crisis of truth we have faced and the ongoing crisis is ultimately not about homosexuality. “The crisis” is the Lordship of Christ and the Authority of Scripture.

“I will praise your name for your loving kindness and your truth, for you have magnified your word above your name.” Psalm 138

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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

For all Christians, there is an ongoing struggle between the flesh and spirit that is often a daily reality.

Therefore, which of these two natures is the real me? More specifically, what does this inner conflict mean for the person leaving homosexuality?

For every Christian, overcoming his or her past, whether it is homosexuality or some other life-dominating struggle, is an ongoing process of spiritual growth. In some respects, it never ends. The transformation of anyone struggling with same-sex attraction is a maturing experience similar to that of any believer. The journey out of the brokenness of same-sex attraction is not unique at all. It just has different twists and turns along the way from that of the average heterosexual seeking healing from his or her past.

Without a doubt, stopping homosexual “acting out” is a significant, important first step. But what then? One of the deepest root issues that every man and woman must change in order to experience freedom from his or her homosexual background is a change in their thoughts and identity.

Identity, the core sense of who we are, is probably the deepest and most difficult area to experience change. This is where Scripture can have its most powerful effect. Am I defined by my feelings or by whom God says I am?

Every former homosexual that I have met has repeatedly told me that the reason they have been successful in abandoning homosexuality has been solely due to obedience to God’s Word. Changing their same-gender attraction was a side effect of a much larger goal: being conformed to the image of Jesus Christ.

Many men and women have found homosexuality to be ultimately disappointing, certainly less than totally fulfilling. Many have sensed that there is something more available…and they want it. However, seeking a ‘straight lifestyle’ is a flawed and misdirected motive for coming out of homosexuality. The ultimate goal and focus should be seeking and reaching spiritual maturity, and not just experiencing a certain sexual orientation.

There is evidence for change from homosexuality right in the New Testament church. In speaking to the Corinthian believers, the Apostle Paul said that some of them had been involved in various sinful lifestyles, including homosexuality. But then he declared, “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:11)

Coming out of homosexuality is not a new phenomenon. It has been occurring in the Church since the days of the first-century church, if not before. The message of hope for overcoming same-gender attraction has been declared for centuries. With that in mind, I hope you will find the following testimonies encouraging and thought-provoking. To God be the glory!

“I am amazed at the change in me. Other people see it as well. Yes, I still experience temptation from time to time, but I now have the strength and the desire to turn away from it. I am so filled with compassion to help others who have the same issue of same-sex attraction that I can’t explain it. I know that it is the Holy Spirit at work in me. I know that I am just a babe in Christ and that I must grow in knowledge and maturity. I wait patiently for the time to come when God calls me to help. I pray daily He will use me to help others. I want to thank you so much for His Way Out Ministries. It is a truly needed ministry in this world. I wish the Church would face this issue more directly and speak of it openly and remove the stigma it has associated with it. I just feel like so many people could be helped more easily. May God bless your ministry…Mike.”

“It was truly God’s plan and blessing that His Way Out Ministries was here in Bakersfield, California just when I needed healing and restoration. You devoted an enormous amount of time, love, and understanding to me and I appreciate it and still do appreciate it. You made a positive impact not only on my life but the life of my wife and children. When we all see each other in Glory, you will be able to see how many generations you have affected. I praise God for His Way Out Ministries. Please, please, please never be disheartened or discouraged. You are a conduit of God’s love…Jim.”

“I asked Jesus to fully invade my heart and rescue me. I would love to tell you that there was an immediate surge of electricity throughout my body or there was a mighty gush of the Holy Spirit upon me, but that is not how God worked with me. That said, there was an undeniable peace in my heart. The events that followed are nothing short of miracles especially after all the bridges I had burned. I called my parents who helped me get into a Christian drug program in Vista, CA and after about four months of being sober, I began to become truly convicted of my same-sex attraction. My mom, a seasoned prayer warrior, had been in prayer all these years and hunting down any and all ministries for those who struggle with same-sex attraction. She began sending me articles and newsletters from Pastor Lee and His Way Out Ministries with the content just making sense. Finally, I wasn’t alone and I began to see and understand my true struggle wasn’t my drug abuse. For the past eight years, I have been rebuilding my life and learning how to have a relationship with God. It hasn’t been without its trials or its joys. Ultimately, you do not have to surrender to a lie. You have to surrender to God…Kenny.”

Ministering to men, women and their families is a joyous opportunity to share in the comfort that Christ has given to all of us. It says in 2 Corinthians 1:3-5, “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God. For just as the sufferings of Christ flow over into our lives, so also through Christ our comfort overflows.”

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

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Thirty years ago, surrendering my life to Christ Jesus and saying goodbye to homosexuality, did I ever even once consider I would find myself front and center of one of the greatest crossroads the Church has ever faced. Homosexuality has become perhaps the most controversial social issue of our time, presenting a host of difficult, if not divisive questions. What exactly is homosexuality and how is it caused? Is homosexual practice morally good? Is homosexual practice beneficial or detrimental to the individual? What’s the best way to respond to the gay agenda that relentlessly bombards us through various social and political agendas?

While the above is certainly important and relevant, I believe a far greater issue and concern is at hand. Homosexuality should not have been nor should it now be the primary concern of the Church. What has been unfolding for decades and continues today is a rejection of God and a suppressing of His truth in favor of being wise in our own eyes. Plainly, we are in pride and rebellion against God.

Romans 1:29-32 tells us the consequence of a society which ignores and suppresses His truth is a people “filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, back-biters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.”

At the very heart of this dark shadow that hangs over the Church is an important question each faithful follower of Christ Jesus must ask: Will I reject the authority of the Word of God or will I by the power of the Holy Spirit surrender and conform my life to the Word of God?

Just the fact alone that we are continuing to debate whether or not the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is sinful validates “they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itchy ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.” (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

There are those that focus entirely on the world continuing to wax worse and worse and therefore what’s the point of reaching to and helping many “come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil” (2 Timothy 2:24-26) in these last days?

Truth must be spoken and it must be spoken with compassion, understanding, and the knowledge that truth often cuts extremely deep before it can begin to bring about healing and wholeness. Ultimately, faithful followers of Christ Jesus must speak the truth about homosexuality because it is truth alone that will bring about freedom and wholeness.

Thirty years ago, it was Christians, speaking both truth and grace into my life that made all the difference. I would not be here today without them. My particular sin and brokenness was not overlooked but rather talked about openly and in conjunction with many, many other sins. For the first time in my life, I began to be who God created me to be which, by the way, also included loving even the broken parts as He did and does.

Jesus said, “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matthew 7:13-14).

Truthless grace accomplishes nothing.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

I returned from the Marriage, Family Life, and Sexual Health Conference with 49 index cards – each card offering a question about homosexuality by an individual or family in attendance for the one-day conference. Of the 49 cards, 7 of the cards posed questions related to, “How does one resolve the issue of same-sex attraction?” The remaining 42 cards all focused upon, “How do I reach out to my gay-identified friend or family member with love, mercy, gentleness, and compassion while not compromising the truth and clarity of Scripture with regard to homosexual practice?”

Based upon my travels through churches of various denominations here in America and overseas, congregation members are not being equipped and educated on the complexities of same-sex attraction and related issues, and as a result are paying a very high price, if not feeling like failures. As one man shared with me at a recent conference, “We’re getting slammed due to a lack of knowledge and practical tools that would help us be more effective in reasoning with and reaching those that promote the ‘gay is good’ notion.”

It is an undeniable fact that homosexual activists are highly organized, have a strategic plan, and are gaining public acceptance with regard to their beliefs and cause. Today, with everyone knowing at least one person who experiences same-sex attraction, why are we, the Church, still so ill-equipped to help those who are being held captive by the brokenness of same-sex attraction? Especially, with regard to congregation members that are clearly and undeniably hungry to be educated and equipped.

Today, not only are believers falling into homosexual sin and legitimizing it but many within the uninformed Church are applauding them as they do. Laws are being changed, homosexual marriage is marching from state to state and nation to nation. Educational systems are becoming more tolerant of homosexual practice by falsely teaching pro-homosexual lessons through health education curriculum. And, far too many churches and Christian organizations are giving a friendly nod to gay ideology, making Isaiah’s famous warning more relevant than ever:

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness” (Isaiah 5:20).

Clearly, we, the Church, need to acknowledge and address our own dysfunctionality of not complying with the Gospel. Or, permit me to say it this way…

If we are not educating and equipping the Church with practical tools to be more effective in reaching those with unwanted same-sex attraction and offering ministry to those with unwanted same-sex attraction, we are not fulfilling The Great Commission.

I believe any concerned individual who cares enough to be educated on the subject of homosexuality is then more than able to introduce the ministry of transformation to a local congregation. We, the Church, must be a witness to society that we are educated on the brokenness of same-sex attraction and we can also discuss and even debate this issue in love so that the Church will be a model for reconciliation with God and with others.

Personally, I remain concerned we the Church are often more concerned about “those out there” who are suffering injustice than we appear to be concerned about our own who are suffering the needless pain that this life can sometimes bring. We can not hold back needed ministry because of the objections of a few.

We must affirm the biblical position that God loves all people, that homosexual practice is one sin among many and that the Holy Spirit is available to transform all persons – including homosexual persons.

We must minister to persons struggling with homosexuality, their families, and all others affected by homosexuality as partners in Christ’s work of healing while integrating all persons striving to live as faithful disciples of Jesus Christ into full membership in the local church.

While we, in and of ourselves cannot promise healing to any person, even though we are convinced that God can and does heal many, we must continue to see the Body of Christ as the primary agent for any and all transformation. The ministry of hope, healing, wholeness, and transformation takes place in the Body of Christ, The Church.

It is imperative the Body of Christ stand against current trends in today’s society that have and continue to distort human sexuality as God intended and created it.

In the end, we will be successful by extending a ministry solution. We are individually and collectively part of God’s plan by offering the ministry of transformation and humbly realizing God has called us to partner with Him in His plan.

What a privilege. What an honor. What a responsibility.

“…where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty” (2 Corinthians 3:17).

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Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee