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His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Dr. Michael Brown

Season 3, Episode 23
Dr. Michael L. Brown, founder and president of FIRE School of Ministry, Director of the Coalition of Conscience, and host of the daily, nationally, syndicated talk radio show, The Line of Fire, joins Pastor Phillip Lee to continue their discussion, focusing on the question, “Can you be gay and a Christian?” Scripture is abundantly clear that ‘change’ is possible. Today however, especially in America, little is being offered which promotes this truth about homosexuality.

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Authority and the Process of Change with Michael Brown pt2 – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

His Way Out Ministries Podcasts are dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Pastor Phillip Lee & Dr. Michael Brown

Season 3, Episode 22
Dr. Michael L. Brown, founder and president of FIRE School of Ministry, Director of the Coalition of Conscience, and host of the daily, nationally, syndicated talk radio show, The Line of Fire, joins Pastor Phillip Lee to focus on sexual morality. It is not a matter of each individual’s personal interpretation but is a matter of authority, God’s authority. It is imperative the Church protect and defend The Authority of Scripture.

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Authority and the Process of Change with Michael Brown pt1 – Download MP3 –

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category to the right.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 14
Special Guest: Pastor Brandon Holthaus, Senior Pastor, Rock Harbor Church, Bakersfield, CA.

Have we, The Church, largely allowed secular guidance to trump Biblical teaching, especially regarding what God has to say about sexual expression, gender, marriage, and identity? Our ability to fulfill The Great Commission (Matthew 28:19-20) depends on our preaching the Gospel, making converts, and then teaching converts God’s truth about marriage, the sanctity of life, sexuality, gender, and what personal responsibility means and entails.

Biblical Truth with Brandon Holthaus pt2
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Phillip Lee and Brandon Holthaus

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 13
Special Guest: Pastor Brandon Holthaus, Senior Pastor, Rock Harbor Church, Bakersfield, CA.

We know homosexuality is a classic hot-button issue leading many Christians to avoid speaking about it for a number of reasons: fear of offending, uncertainty of what to say or how to say it, or wariness of being labeled a bigot, hateful, or homophobic. The ministry partnership of Rock Harbor Church and His Way Out Ministries has sought and continues to seek to change that, because we feel no one should have to apologize for having an opinion, holding to truth, and expressing truth in any setting.

Biblical Truth with Brandon Holthaus pt1
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Phillip Lee and Brandon Holthaus

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 14
Once again, Pastor Roger Spradlin, Senior Pastor of Valley Baptist Church joins Pastor Phillip Lee for this episode of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast where the conversation has been focused on, “How can a faithful follower of Christ Jesus affirm homosexual practice, or anything for that matter, that God never affirms?”

Listen online or download the podcast.

Affirming Truth Rather Than Culture with Roger Spradlin pt2 – Download MP3 –

Phillip Lee & Roger Spradlin

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am (PST) on KERI 1410AM, and live streamed at www.wilkinsradio.com, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 13
Pastor Roger Spradlin, Senior Pastor of Valley Baptist Church joins Pastor Phillip Lee for this episode of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast where the conversation focuses on, “How can a faithful follower of Christ Jesus affirm homosexual practice, or anything for that matter, that God never affirms?”

Listen online or download the podcast.

Affirming Truth Rather Than Culture with Roger Spradlin – Download MP3 –

Phillip Lee & Roger Spradlin

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 18
Roles get reversed when Pastor Roger Spradlin interviews Pastor Phillip Lee in the second part of a two-part episode about saying goodbye to “gay” and surrendering his life to Christ Jesus 31 years ago.

Pastor Spradlin asked important and pointed questions such as: Is there a difference between the terms “gay” and “homosexual”? Did you choose to be gay? How instrumental was the Church in your process of transformation? Were you ever bullied? Do you think a Christian should attend a same-sex marriage ceremony? Am I correct that you personally witnessed the AIDS crisis unfold in 1980? What was it, what happened that ultimately caused you to say goodbye to “gay” and surrender to Christ? Is freedom from same-sex attraction instantaneous when surrendering to Christ or is it a process? Is the ultimate goal for the same-sex attracted person heterosexuality? Is the true identity of a Christian found in their sexuality or in Christ? And, much more.

These are the kind of conversations that need to take place throughout the Body of Christ on a regular basis to effectively and compassionately communicate God’s heart concerning sexual brokenness and wholeness in Christ Jesus.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Roger Spradlin and Phillip Lee Reverse Roles pt2 – Download MP3 –

Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Roger Spradlin

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries is offering a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 17
Roles get reversed when Pastor Roger Spradlin interviews Pastor Phillip Lee about saying goodbye to “gay” and surrendering his life to Christ Jesus 31 years ago.

Pastor Spradlin asked important and pointed questions such as: Is there a difference between the terms “gay” and “homosexual”? Did you choose to be gay? How instrumental was the Church in your process of transformation? Were you ever bullied? Do you think a Christian should attend a same-sex marriage ceremony? Am I correct that you personally witnessed the AIDS crisis unfold in 1980? What was it, what happened that ultimately caused you to say goodbye to “gay” and surrender to Christ? Is freedom from same-sex attraction instantaneous when surrendering to Christ or is it a process? Is the ultimate goal for the same-sex attracted person heterosexuality? Is the true identity of a Christian found in their sexuality or in Christ? And, much more.

These are the kind of conversations that need to take place throughout the Body of Christ on a regular basis to effectively and compassionately communicate God’s heart concerning sexual brokenness and wholeness in Christ Jesus.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Roger Spradlin and Phillip Lee Reverse Roles pt1 – Download MP3 –

Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Roger Spradlin

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 2
Pastor Roger Spradlin, Senior Pastor at Valley Baptist Church, joins Pastor Phillip Lee for part 2 of their discussion on “Homosexuality and the Church”. Too many youth today are learning more about homoexuality from the Internet, Movies, and TV rather than in Church, causing many to be misled. How should a Christian, a church, reach out in love to a homosexual or the gay community to effectively represent Christ?

Listen online or download the podcast.

Homosexuality and the Church with Roger Spradlin pt2 – Download MP3 –

Phillip Lee & Roger Spradlin

Click on THIS LINK to listen or download His Way Out Podcasts or select the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Coming up at “Straight Talk” on Saturday, February 11, 2023 beginning at 9:00am.

Each of us will at some point in our lives look upon a loved one and ask the question: “We are willing, Lord, but what can we do?”

“For it is true we can seldom help those closest to us. Either we don’t know what part of ourselves to give, or more often than not, the part we have to give is not wanted. And so, it is those we live with, and should know, who elude us. But we can still love them. We can love completely, without complete understanding.” – A River Runs Through It

Grace and Truth – the considerable challenge to be honest and loving; firm in our convictions, unsparing in our compassion and as clear in our beliefs as we are generous in our love.

When someone you love is same-sex attracted, you become more aware than ever of your inability to face life’s challenges apart from the grace of God.

At “Straight Talk” we will seek a Christlike response to our LGBTQ-identified family members, friends, neighbors and co-workers so may what be said of Christ Jesus may be said of us as well – that we are, as He was, full of grace and truth.

“Straight Talk” meetings are held faithfully on the 2nd Saturday of each month at Rock Harbor Churchwww.rockharborchurch.net – Bakersfield, CA and facilitated by Pastor Phillip Lee, His Way Out Ministries.

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