Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 18
Roles get reversed when Pastor Roger Spradlin interviews Pastor Phillip Lee in the second part of a two-part episode about saying goodbye to “gay” and surrendering his life to Christ Jesus 31 years ago.

Pastor Spradlin asked important and pointed questions such as: Is there a difference between the terms “gay” and “homosexual”? Did you choose to be gay? How instrumental was the Church in your process of transformation? Were you ever bullied? Do you think a Christian should attend a same-sex marriage ceremony? Am I correct that you personally witnessed the AIDS crisis unfold in 1980? What was it, what happened that ultimately caused you to say goodbye to “gay” and surrender to Christ? Is freedom from same-sex attraction instantaneous when surrendering to Christ or is it a process? Is the ultimate goal for the same-sex attracted person heterosexuality? Is the true identity of a Christian found in their sexuality or in Christ? And, much more.

These are the kind of conversations that need to take place throughout the Body of Christ on a regular basis to effectively and compassionately communicate God’s heart concerning sexual brokenness and wholeness in Christ Jesus.

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Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Roger Spradlin

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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries is offering a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 2, Episode 17
Roles get reversed when Pastor Roger Spradlin interviews Pastor Phillip Lee about saying goodbye to “gay” and surrendering his life to Christ Jesus 31 years ago.

Pastor Spradlin asked important and pointed questions such as: Is there a difference between the terms “gay” and “homosexual”? Did you choose to be gay? How instrumental was the Church in your process of transformation? Were you ever bullied? Do you think a Christian should attend a same-sex marriage ceremony? Am I correct that you personally witnessed the AIDS crisis unfold in 1980? What was it, what happened that ultimately caused you to say goodbye to “gay” and surrender to Christ? Is freedom from same-sex attraction instantaneous when surrendering to Christ or is it a process? Is the ultimate goal for the same-sex attracted person heterosexuality? Is the true identity of a Christian found in their sexuality or in Christ? And, much more.

These are the kind of conversations that need to take place throughout the Body of Christ on a regular basis to effectively and compassionately communicate God’s heart concerning sexual brokenness and wholeness in Christ Jesus.

Listen online or download the podcast.

Roger Spradlin and Phillip Lee Reverse Roles pt1 – Download MP3 –

Pastor Phillip Lee & Pastor Roger Spradlin

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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 2
Pastor Roger Spradlin, Senior Pastor at Valley Baptist Church, joins Pastor Phillip Lee for part 2 of their discussion on “Homosexuality and the Church”. Too many youth today are learning more about homoexuality from the Internet, Movies, and TV rather than in Church, causing many to be misled. How should a Christian, a church, reach out in love to a homosexual or the gay community to effectively represent Christ?

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Homosexuality and the Church with Roger Spradlin pt2 – Download MP3 –

Phillip Lee & Roger Spradlin

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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 1
Pastor Roger Spradlin, Senior Pastor at Valley Baptist Church, joins Pastor Phillip Lee to discuss the topic “Homosexuality and the Church”. Is the challenge, the crisis, the Church faces today really about homosexuality? Christians should never use God’s Word as a club, but neither should we water down or withhold His Word. Why are so many so adamant about challenging “change is possible for the homosexual?”

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Phillip Lee & Roger Spradlin

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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 13
Pastor Phillip Lee continues his discussion with his special guest Pastor Roger Spradlin, Senior Pastor at Valley Baptist Church in Bakersfield CA.

Is it Scriptural to label homosexuality the worst of all sins? How should a church be led to effectively love homosexuals? Can a Christian still struggling with same-sex attraction, still profess to being a Christian? Is it ok to be gay since Jesus never specifically mentioned homosexuality? How should a Christian respond when accuse of being homophobic? God’s truth remains absolute truth.

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A Christian Approach to Homosexuality with Roger Spradlin pt2 – Download MP3 –

Phillip Lee & Roger Spradlin

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Each Saturday morning beginning at 7:00am, His Way Out Ministries offers a 30-minute broadcast dedicated to equipping, educating and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Season 3, Episode 12
Pastor Phillip Lee is joined by his special guest Pastor Roger Spradlin, Senior Pastor at Valley Baptist Church in Bakersfield CA.

Today, the Christian community has many different approaches to handling homosexuality. We have gay bashing churches, gay affirming churches, and churches that have taken a vow of silence on the entire matter. How can a person evaluate whether their church is handling the topic appropriately?

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Phillip Lee & Roger Spradlin

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Today, few topics are as fraught with confusion as the subject of homosexuality.

Too often, the challenge, the biggest communication problem we, the Church, face regarding homosexuality is we do not listen to understand – we listen only to reply.

Speaking as one that spent 17 years in the formidable gay communities of Los Angeles, New York City and San Francisco, I know all too well there are radical gay-identified men and women who will not listen to anything the Christian community has to say.

Their ears are closed, and their hearts have become so completely hardened that nothing Christians say will make a difference. Many have completely severed any and all bridges of communication, except for name-calling.

However, there remain men and women practicing same-sex scenarios who would walk away from it if they thought they really could. Having bought into the notion of “once gay, always gay” as I did for many years, they still experience a sense of the wrongness of what they are doing but feel completely trapped with no way out.

To be frank, these are the men and women we have often failed, many of whom are in our churches.

Again, speaking from years of living as a gay-identified man, many in the gay community are hurting because they, just as I did, compulsively act out behavior to mask and cover pain.

Too often, we the Christian community, have failed to draw a distinction between the radical gay community and the individuals sitting in church who might be confused about their gender. Or between gay activists and the son or daughter who has adopted the gay identity but still is looking for a way out.

Please know and understand the radical gay community, gay activists in particular, do not speak for all gay-identified men and women. Frankly, gay activists often, very often, give the gay community a very bad rap.

My point?

We, the Christian community, we do not like it when others paint us with a big brush, let’s not do the same with the gay community.

Draw a clear distinction between the radical gay agenda and the men and women with unwanted same-sex attraction who are seeking help and hope.

The first word from the Church to the gay community should be that we ourselves need repentance.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

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Season 6, Episode 5
Phillip Lee
You are sitting in church, listening to your pastor. You are following along and taking notes on the very relevant topic of same-sex attraction because what is being shared is not only relevant to our culture but to you personally. Now you have the task, if not the monumental challenge, of facing the son, daughter, co-worker, friend, or neighbor that sees nothing wrong with homosexual practice and is involved in a same-sex relationship. You are now the one that gets to flesh out the truth you now know. How is that done? What do you do? What don’t you do? What does representing Christ Jesus in this matter look like?

Where Do We Go From Here?
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