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The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
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Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
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Season 6, Episode 6
Special Guest, Carol Wagstaff, author of Reclaim, Restore, and Rebuild: Hope for Families Impacted by Sexual Brokenness available at Amazon.com.

Change occurs within a process; a process that takes time. Spiritual growth is a lifelong process. Working through character faults and past hurts, immaturities, and insecurities is a long process for everyone, not just the recovering same-sex attracted individual.

Change! with Carol Wagstaff
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Author Carol Wagstaff

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 5
Phillip Lee
You are sitting in church, listening to your pastor. You are following along and taking notes on the very relevant topic of same-sex attraction because what is being shared is not only relevant to our culture but to you personally. Now you have the task, if not the monumental challenge, of facing the son, daughter, co-worker, friend, or neighbor that sees nothing wrong with homosexual practice and is involved in a same-sex relationship. You are now the one that gets to flesh out the truth you now know. How is that done? What do you do? What don’t you do? What does representing Christ Jesus in this matter look like?

Where Do We Go From Here?
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All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Today, anyone who believes in upholding and protecting the Lordship of Christ and the Authority of Scripture, especially its relevance to social issues, as well as offering a defense for sound doctrine will most assuredly find himself in an intense battle.

Articulating Biblical precepts can get you fired, canceled, censored, and possibly even jailed. The demand for dedicated faithful followers of Christ Jesus to be silent is growing.

However, we must never be ashamed of the gospel – and we are told to proclaim its precepts.

If the Christian community is ever to meet the challenge of the relentless pro-gay assault upon the Church and God’s Word, it is essential and imperative the Church recover its purpose and proper place by preaching and teaching the entirety of Scripture as it applies to all of life – which includes the realm of sexual ethics and morals.

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For faithful followers of Christ Jesus, following the teachings of Christ and being purposed to reach men and women struggling with same-gender attraction may inflict a tremendous personal challenge, if not a very high price.

However, if we are truly in love with Jesus, our willingness and obedience to go in His Name does not really cost us anything, it is a joy. But it just might cost those who do not know Him or refuse to follow Him a great deal.

Over and over again, I have found that teaching and testifying about a God that saves and delivers from the snare of homosexuality causes many people to have their plans for life upset. The world and its effects have worn away the faith of many. While it is continued to be taught and preached that God can do the impossible, do we still believe that?

When it comes to the issue of homosexuality, the Church has become fractured and viewpoints can differ from church to church, denomination to denomination, and believer to believer.

While some say, “God created some men and women homosexual; acting out sexually doesn’t matter, you are saved by faith and not works; homosexuals were created to be lost; God accepts you where you are and no change is necessary,” each and every one of these misguided false statements flies in the face of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I have even tragically heard it said, “the very best a homosexual can hope for is celibacy,” when it comes to change. Is it any wonder the man or woman struggling with homosexuality is often completely confused about the Christian viewpoint? Too often, the individual trying to follow and be obedient to the full Gospel of Christ encounters someone who is there to tell him he doesn’t have to change his life, just change churches. It is far easier to change churches than it is to be obedient and change your attitude and behavior.

As a Christian, I must be obedient and involved in the full purposes of God which will often cause many to be offended. However, being obedient to Jesus never brings dishonor to Him. The only thing that dishonors Him is not obeying Him.

I believe an appropriate question for the Church today regarding homosexuality and related issues is, “Am I being loyal to the notions of Jesus, or loyal to Him?”

Are we, His Church, remaining loyal to what He has clearly stated in His Word regarding homosexuality, or are we trying to find compromises with conceptions that never came from Him?

Helping a man or woman to come out of homosexuality takes a tremendous amount of effort. Frankly, it is much, much easier to say that it simply can’t be done than to embark on a journey that may last for a very long time. Tragically, many have counted the cost and ultimately made the decision that it simply wasn’t worth the effort. However, that never has, nor will it ever minimize God’s power or His sovereignty.

Yes, God is more than able to change our life, but He requires our obedience and participation. Unfortunately, we live in a world today that seeks, if not demands, a simple and natural explanation for just about everything. Anytime we look to the world for definitive answers, we place ourselves on shifting sand.

When a person who was once controlled by his sin is now free from that sin and engaged in a new kind of life pattern, hasn’t change occurred?

Oswald Chambers states in My Utmost for His Highest, “A man is a slave for obeying unless behind his obedience there is recognition of a holy God.” I find it remarkable that God never insists on our obedience, but when we truly know Him, we want to instantly obey Him and live according to His perfect will from sunup to sundown.

Indeed, obedience is much better than sacrifice. However, the wonderful hymn, “I Surrender All,” does not seem to be at the top of the charts today. Today, like never before, God desires that all men and women surrender their sexuality to Him. When anyone is obedient and fully surrenders their life to Him, which includes their sexuality, life will take on new meaning, purpose and a relationship with God, that many never thought possible, will become a reality. Why? Because God always blesses obedience.

“I tell you the truth unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.” (John 12:24-25 NIV)

Today, there remains a remnant being used of God to bring repentance and restoration to men and women with unwanted same-sex attraction. Personally, I continue to hope and pray their example will bring repentance and restoration to the Church of Jesus Christ.

Holiness, godliness, and spiritual discipline should be, must be the distinctive marks of the true Church. Jesus prayed that His people be kept in truth: “Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.” (John 17:17)

Compromising God’s Word, His Truth, or withholding His Truth only leads to greater unity with the world and not His Church.

As Christians, may we never forget that while our obedience to the Great Commission may cost us personally, the good news of spiritual deliverance through Jesus Christ remains an important and vital resource that Christians must share.

On God’s truth is where a Christian, the Church must stand.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 4
Phillip Lee and Brandon Holthaus
The battle over homosexuality in the Church has been raging for decades. Today, churches are all over the map on the topic with some continuing to gather as though nothing has happened or happening.

The Church (churches) and Homosexuality – Part Two
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Phillip Lee and Brandon Holthaus

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 3
Phillip Lee and Brandon Holthaus
Any attempt to validate homosexual practice requires abandoning the truth of God. The Church influences culture by holding to God’s truth.

The Church (churches) and Homosexuality – Part One
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Phillip Lee and Brandon Holthaus

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 2
Pastor Phillip Lee
Today, the evangelical church that knows how to respond properly to homosexuality is more the exception than the rule. Christian leadership should be preaching from the pulpit that homosexuality is not a worse sin than idolatry or adultery or greed (1 Corinthians 6:9-11), and those struggling with homosexuality can talk about this in a safe environment of love and friendship and accountability.

Forsaking the Eternal for the Temporal
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Pastor Phillip Lee

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 1
Pastor Phillip Lee
As Christians, when discussing homosexuality or other moral issues, we should engage in discussions, seeking to persuade with public reasons aimed at the public good because the gains of cultural philosophy have clouded the issues surrounding the subject of Biblical sexual morality.

In Defense of Biblical Sexual Morality
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Pastor Phillip Lee

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

Educational Workshop, Rock Harbor Church
Saturday, September 10, 2022

Title: There’s Something I Need to Tell You! (When a Loved One, Friend, Co-Worker, Neighbor or Fellow Brother and Sister in Christ Confesses They Are Same-Sex Attracted)
Location: Rock Harbor Church, Bakersfield, CA – https://rockharborchurch.net/
Date: Saturday, September 10, 2022
Time: 9:00am – 11:00am

Workshop Description:

What do you say and do when a loved one confesses, that they are homosexual? The workshop offers practical steps and information to help you understand your loved one, guidance to keep the lines of communication open without compromising your beliefs, and presents the biblical position on homosexuality.

The workshop is also designed to help clear up the misconceptions many have today about homosexuality. Why should sharing the Gospel with a gay person be approached differently than anyone else? Scripturally speaking: what do we know about homosexuality? Why doesn’t God just go ‘Poof!’ and make it go away? Is just saying homosexuality is a sin good enough? Does it matter why the person you love is homosexual?

The workshop offers biblical and compassionate responses to homosexuality for parents, pastors, co-workers, a neighbor, or maybe just a good friend.

The Educational Workshop will be facilitated by Pastor Phillip Lee, Executive Director of His Way Out Ministries – www.hiswayout.com – who speaks to the topic of same-sex attraction professionally and personally having left homosexual practice and the gay identity 37 years ago.

There is no fee for the workshop however registration is necessary and may be completed by sending (1) your name(s) (2) home church (3) email address and (4) cell phone number to email address: hwom@juno.com

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

It is no secret that American culture has and continues to drift far from the standards of sexual morality found in the Bible. In place of standards tied by faith and tradition to what God reveals in Scripture, our culture has embraced other views all fundamentally opposed to biblical sexual morality.

On Saturday, September 3, 2022, His Way Out Ministries will resume our weekly radio broadcast on KERI 1410AM with each broadcast airing 12:00 – 12:30pm (PDT).

KERI 1410AM offers a Live Stream: http://www.wilkinsradio.com/our-stations/keri-1410am-bakersfield-ca/

Our weekly broadcast will also air Saturday’s, 8:30pm – 9:00pm (EDT) on WLMR AM and FM 103.3 in Chattanooga, TN.

Our weekly broadcast will eventually be offered on our website joining five years of broadcasts currently offered for immediate listening or downloading for future listening.

Please visit: https://hiswayout.com/category/audio-podcast/

With truth in our hearts, we can go forward to have conversations that change our culture and reveal the love of Christ Jesus to all the world.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

Where there is confusion, there is a desperate crying need for clarity. Personally, I remain challenged and purposed to continue equipping Christians in order to discuss same-sex behavior from a Biblical perspective.

The absolute critical importance of embracing God’s Truth regarding homosexual practice is the catalyst for His Truth to be clear in our hearts which enables God’s people to move forward and have conversations that will change our culture and reveal the love of Christ to all the world.

It is abundantly clear, based upon my travels through churches of various denominations here in America and overseas – that far too many congregation members are still not being informed, equipped, and educated on the complexities of same-sex attraction and related issues, and as a result are paying a very high price, if not feeling like failures, or as one man shared with me not so long ago… “We’re getting slammed due to a lack of knowledge and practical tools that would help us be more effective in reasoning with and reaching those that promote the ‘gay is good’ notion. We are needlessly getting hammered.”

How is it with the battle of homosexuality in the Church, which has been raging for several decades, there is such hesitation and reluctance to specifically address the crisis?

Many continue to gather Sunday after Sunday for worship as though nothing has happened. Consequently, today, not only are believers falling into homosexual sin and legitimizing it but many within the uninformed Church are applauding them as they do.

Herein lies my ongoing concern with regard to homosexual practice. With everything that has transpired and everything that continues to unfold, most Christians are still learning more about homosexuality from movies, the Internet, and television than they learn in their own congregations.

Often, hanging in the balance, are many who struggle with same-sex attraction and remain torn by the ongoing rhetoric and debate while yearning to hear the redemptive truth of the Bible.

Today, there exists a hodgepodge of beliefs, attitudes, and positions regarding homosexuality in the Church.

“Welcoming and Affirming” churches believe homosexuals cannot change and encourage gays and lesbians to “live according to your same-sex leaning and desire.”

“Intimidated and Fearful” churches have been scared speechless and take the stance that the topic is just too confusing, political, and divisive.

“Belittling” churches blatantly condemn homosexual practice, in any form and to any degree, and communicate such a stance coupled with great condemnation and judgment.

“Complacent” churches find the whole matter unimportant and irrelevant to the scheme of things in culture and church.

“No Problem” churches are completely unaware of homosexual strugglers in their own congregation which enable many to suffer in silence believing there is no help to be had for the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

“Scripturally-Sound” churches offer ministry and discipleship to the homosexual struggler clothed in a balance of both truth and grace, loving them as any other member while not dismissing, apologizing, and clearly stating the practice of homosexuality is a violation of God’s intent and purpose.

The promises of God are true and unfailingly fruit-bearing “if” we extend them.

I believe we, the Church, must be much more dedicated to offering the right blend of information, practical steps, and Biblical guidelines regarding homosexuality. This is reasonable service.

Personally, I am convinced in these days of ‘tolerance’ and ‘moral relativism’ it is essential and imperative we, the Church, return ourselves to the holy boundary lines and principles of the Scriptures that are to govern our lives regarding all matters of morality and ethical living.

God, in His mercy, patience, and long-suffering is once again giving His people the opportunity to prepare to offer a Christ-like response to homosexuality.

Jesus said, “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead, they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.” (Matthew 5:14-15)

We, the Church, must become much more relevant to a rapidly changing world.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

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