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The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 12
Special Guest: Wayne Blakely, friend, ministry colleague, author of Line By Line: A Biblical Analysis of Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones, Founder and Director of Know His Love Ministries.

Where there’s confusion, there’s a crying need for clarity. And since few subjects are as fraught with confusion as the subject of homosexuality, Know His Love Ministries, founded and directed by Wayne Blakely, provides a welcome and much-needed voice. Wayne shares details about his recent European travels and our frank and honest discussion regarding same-sex attraction and change.

Clarity with Wayne Blakely
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Phillip Lee and Wayne Blakely

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

I was born at night, but it wasn’t last night.

Now that the Respect for Marriage Act has been signed into law, by not accepting or affirming same-sex marriage, now places you in the same category as a racist.

Look at the wording for the Respect for Marriage Act: Public Law No: 117-8…

This act provides statutory authority for same-sex and interracial marriages.

“Specifically, the act replaces provisions that define, for purposes of federal law, marriage as between a man and a woman and spouse as a person of the opposite sex with provisions that recognize any marriage between two individuals that is valid under state law. (The Supreme Court held that the current provisions were unconstitutional in United States v. Windsor in 2013.)

The act also replaces provisions that do not require states to recognize same-sex marriages from other states with provisions that prohibit the denial of full faith and credit or any right or claim relating to out-of-state marriages on the basis of sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin. (The Supreme Court held that state laws barring same-sex marriages were unconstitutional in Obergefell v. Hodges in 2015; the Court held that state laws barring interracial marriages were unconstitutional in Loving v. Virginia in 1967.) The act allows the Department of Justice to bring a civil action and establishes a private right of action for violations.”

My personal commentary…

Apart from the broader goal of legitimizing homosexuality, the alleged aim of all gay rights initiatives, is to protect homosexuals from discrimination based solely on their sexual orientation. Too often, gay rights are presented and promoted as an issue of civil rights with the gay community likening themselves to African Americans or other minorities who have suffered under discriminatory laws and social policies.

Is such an argument and analogy really justified?

Have homosexuals really been the object of prejudice and discrimination in the same way as African Americans?

The color of one’s skin is not a matter of choice; that is genetically determined. However, homosexual behavior is not genetically determined.

Therefore, it is one thing to say that we believe in civil rights for all regardless of one’s skin color. It is quite another matter to say that we believe in civil rights for all regardless of one’s behavior.

Homosexuals frequently speak of themselves as if their being gay is fundamental to who they are as persons and as a community. Ultimately, they are in effect defining themselves by their gayness. As a result, they set themselves off as a separate class, a group needing, if not demanding, special attention and deference.

Are we as a society really being asked to connect and equate civil rights and homosexual rights as the same?

As a member of the gay community for 17 years, I was never denied the right to vote, own property, or attend the college or university of my choice. History clearly dictates and reflects that African Americans cannot say the same.

Therefore, comparing homosexual rights to the civil rights of African Americans is shallow and ultimately insulting. Homosexuals, as a class, have not suffered discrimination as African Americans.

The attempt to blur the lines that homosexual practice is clearly about morals by comparing a behavior to an issue of civil rights is dishonest and misleading. A significant number of homosexuals do not suffer from economic or other key forms of discrimination as do African Americans.

As citizens of the United States, homosexuals have all the afforded rights extended to every citizen. These fundamental rights include: the right to vote, the First Amendment rights of free speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of petition, and freedom of religion.

Ultimately, there is no socially compelling reason to grant special status to homosexuals and there should be no comparison to the history and present day of African Americans.

There is no doubt, no question that closely tied to the quest for power by gay activists is their crusade for acceptance, the desire and demand to gain society’s approval on homosexual behavior.

Homosexuals have the right, as do others, to believe that homosexual behavior should be accepted as normal.

They do not have the right to demand everyone agree with them.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 2
Pastor Phillip Lee
Today, the evangelical church that knows how to respond properly to homosexuality is more the exception than the rule. Christian leadership should be preaching from the pulpit that homosexuality is not a worse sin than idolatry or adultery or greed (1 Corinthians 6:9-11), and those struggling with homosexuality can talk about this in a safe environment of love and friendship and accountability.

Forsaking the Eternal for the Temporal
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Pastor Phillip Lee

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 1
Pastor Phillip Lee
As Christians, when discussing homosexuality or other moral issues, we should engage in discussions, seeking to persuade with public reasons aimed at the public good because the gains of cultural philosophy have clouded the issues surrounding the subject of Biblical sexual morality.

In Defense of Biblical Sexual Morality
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Pastor Phillip Lee

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 12
Special Guest: Wayne Blakely, friend, ministry colleague, author of Line By Line: A Biblical Analysis of Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones, Founder and Director of Know His Love Ministries.

Where there’s confusion, there’s a crying need for clarity. And since few subjects are as fraught with confusion as the subject of homosexuality, Know His Love Ministries, founded and directed by Wayne Blakely, provides a welcome and much-needed voice. Wayne shares details about his recent European travels and our frank and honest discussion regarding same-sex attraction and change.

Clarity with Wayne Blakely
– Download MP3 –

Phillip Lee and Wayne Blakely

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 11
Special Guest: Dr. John Piippo, Senior Pastor of Redeemer Fellowship Church, Monroe, Michigan and author of his most recent book, Deconstructing Progressive Christianity

When truth is avoided, minimized, revised, or withheld by the Church, shouldn’t we be concerned about the possibility of it being prohibited in the culture?

Affirming Truth with John Piippo pt2
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Dr. John Piippo

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

“…although healing many people of their physical ailments, Jesus often indicated that the forgiveness of their sins was the true gift.”

Even those with a limited knowledge of the Bible will remember that Jesus was scorned and ridiculed for spending time with what were considered the “worst” sinners and the most “unclean” people of His day.

However, Jesus was always determined to focus on those who had the deepest need for Him. As He said, “He was sent not for the healthy, but for the sick,” (Matthew 9:12) and He had little tolerance for those who failed to see their own brokenness.

Clearly, Jesus hung out with sinners. He dined with prostitutes and tax collectors. He interacted with adulterers and harlots. He touched those who were ravaged by socially unacceptable disease.

Simply loving them, He listened as much or more than He talked, and His compassion for them and His understanding of their hurt was clear.

If we are to reach the individual struggling with same-gender attraction or the gay community, we must do the same. A very simple scanning of the gospels offers a good picture of several attitudes and actions that characterize Jesus’ way of relating to those who did not know Him and who were lost in their sin.

Jesus routinely broke religious and cultural boundaries. Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, He entered the homes of undesirable people, and He spoke publicly to people the religious leaders ignored. Clearly, Jesus sacrificed tradition and reputation for the sake of the lives He sought to impact.

Boy, now there’s a lesson: being more attentive and mindful about our character rather than our reputation.

Jesus began His interaction with sinners by loving them first. In other words, he had a genuine love for them and wanted to get to know them. Remember?

If we are going to be effective in speaking into an individual’s life, we must first establish relationship. Jesus was all about building relationships with sinners. Certainly, Jesus, being Jesus, had quicker relational success than we might have, but His example in getting to know people and letting them see Him is vital for our evangelism efforts.

Jesus physically touched people. In other words, He wasn’t afraid to get a bit dirty. He touched lepers, blind people, and prostitutes.

Frankly, I believe physical touch was Jesus’ physical manifestation of His love for people.

In His day, it was considered unclean to even be in proximity with such people. His own disciples often tried to keep “those people” away from Him. But Jesus not only didn’t avoid those people, He sought them out. And it was His touch that healed them both physically and spiritually.

Jesus offered people something better than their sin. He pulled their attention away from their sin and enabled them to consider and focus on what He could give. He told the woman at the well that He had living water, and then He offers her Himself.

After He saved the adulterous woman from being stoned, He offered her freedom from condemnation. After the harlot anointed His feet, He forgave her sin and saved her for eternity. Now, catch this. While Jesus healed many people of their physical ailments, He often indicated that the forgiveness of their sins was the true gift, even more so than the physical healing they so desired. If we are going to reach the homosexual community, we must offer them something better than their sin.

Jesus’ own examples provide us with several practical tools for reaching our gay and lesbian friends, neighbors, etc.

First, please take this to heart – you have permission to love your gay friends or family members.

And, frankly, you have more than permission, you have a mandate from the Lord.

Pastor Phillip Lee
Executive Director
His Way Out Ministries

His Way Out has been faithfully ministering to men and women seeking a way out of sexually broken lifestyles since 1994. We could not do it without the support of Christians like you. Every dollar that you give to His Way Out Ministries helps to further this vital ministry. Won’t you take a minute to prayerfully consider a monthly donation to His Way Out? Please consider making a one-time donation or set up a secure monthly PayPal contribution on our donation page at https://www.hiswayout.com/donate/. Thank you, Pastor Phillip Lee

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 10
Special Guest: Dr. John Piippo, Senior Pastor of Redeemer Fellowship Church, Monroe, Michigan and author of his most recent book, Deconstructing Progressive Christianity

For the Church to effectively fulfill the Great Commission to preach the Gospel and make disciples, it must know and affirm the truth about God, humanity, and life, both eternal and temporal.

Affirming Truth with John Piippo pt1
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Dr. John Piippo

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 9
Special Guest: Pastor Pete Baker, Senior Pastor, Alta Vista Assembly of God, Bakersfield, CA.

To develop a Biblical view of sexual behavior is to affirm the Bible’s inerrancy and its authority over believers’ lives regardless of what society says because when God speaks a word on any topic He speaks the final word.

A Crisis in the Church with Pete Baker pt2
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Pastor Phillip Lee and Pastor Pete Baker

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

The His Way Out Ministries broadcast is dedicated to equipping, educating, and encouraging the Body of Christ to reach out and minister to individuals, families, and churches impacted by the brokenness of same-sex attraction.

Saturday at 12 Noon on KERI 1410 AM Bakersfield, CA
Live Stream KERI 1410 AM, Bakersfield, CA

Saturday at 8:30 PM on WLMR, AM and FM, Chatanooga, TN
Live Stream WLMR AM, Chattanooga, TN

Season 6, Episode 8
Special Guest: Pastor Pete Baker, Senior Pastor, Alta Vista Assembly of God, Bakersfield, CA.

The Church has, does, and probably will always face crises, from without or within. Therefore, it seems the question for us is not whether the Church faces a crisis, but rather, what types of crises does she face today, and is it correct to identify homosexuality as one of them?

A Crisis in the Church with Pete Baker pt1
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Pastor Phillip Lee and Pastor Pete Baker

All past episodes of His Way Out Ministries Radio Broadcast are available by following THIS LINK or selecting the “Audio Podcast” category below.

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